apologies then, i was just trying to say that enjoyment, having a laugh and a drink is one thing, but some of these binges people go on are downright dangerous, and if say just one time the person was made to pay for their treatment, paramedics, doctors etc, a fine of 50 quid, then chances are they won't be so eager to do it again, or better still they make suitable arrangements with mates to get home safely.