ChatterBank2 mins ago
just how many times is Abu Hamza going to be allowed to appeal?
next he'll be appealing to Equity that there's no-one better equipped to play the baddie in productions of Peter Pan.
Answers
Best Answer
No best answer has yet been selected by flipnflap. Once a best answer has been selected, it will be shown here.
For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.Hopefully the High Court judge will throw out the appeal next Tuesday. I'm surprised we had not arranged his living accommodation (in a US jail) so he could have been put on the next plane out. He is making a mockery of the politicians.
I noticed that Cameron had planes flying over LIbya before the week was out so they can get there asses off their seats when it suits them.
I noticed that Cameron had planes flying over LIbya before the week was out so they can get there asses off their seats when it suits them.
It seems that he seeks an injunction, against deportation, on health grounds. Possible, but if he is too ill to go, that could have been argued earlier, in other hearings. So that looks a non-starter. Courts are a bit wary about such applications, and have been ever since, years ago, a man charged with unlawful share dealing pleaded that a trial would kill him, he was almost a dying man already, so he was allowed his freedom, and he went on to live for many years in luxurious liberty.
Don't give his defence team ideas flip - or at least, if you do, get a cheque ;)
What some posters here see as weakness, I see as strength. We have a justice system that allows for appeal for the individual. Hamza can never claim he was not given a fair hearing, or an opportunity to prove his case. Each appeal narrows his avenues - This, to me, seems like a last-ditch attempt - and all the while he is in prison.
I would rather this than some authoritarian regime where the civil liberties of the individual have been sacrificed on the alter of public security- a regime that can do whatever it likes to anyone it chooses....
What some posters here see as weakness, I see as strength. We have a justice system that allows for appeal for the individual. Hamza can never claim he was not given a fair hearing, or an opportunity to prove his case. Each appeal narrows his avenues - This, to me, seems like a last-ditch attempt - and all the while he is in prison.
I would rather this than some authoritarian regime where the civil liberties of the individual have been sacrificed on the alter of public security- a regime that can do whatever it likes to anyone it chooses....
I think we need something that strikes a bit more of a balance, LG.
Nobody in their wildest dreams or imagination could accuse the UK government of acting in any was approaching that of “...some authoritarian regime where the civil liberties of the individual have been sacrificed on the alter of public security- a regime that can do whatever it likes to anyone it chooses....” Abu Hamza has been resisting deportation for some 20 years now. Not bad for somebody who, together with his extended family, has been kept here in comfort all that time, supported by the very taxpayers whom he seems to despise for their philosophy, who entered the country illegally in the first place and who has been charged with serious terrorist related offences.
There is an old saying that “Justice delayed is justice denied”. The matters with which he is charged need to be heard for the sake of Abu Hamza and, more importantly, his alleged victims. The UK government has been complicit in facilitating this delay and, prior to the most recent court decision (which was not sprung on them unannounced) they should have had all measures in place for his deportation that same day. The Home Office statement following the decision that “We will work to ensure that the individuals are handed over to the US authorities as quickly as possible." was clearly ineffective.
There is a vast difference between being seen to act fairly in accordance with the law and prevarication almost beyond credibility. UK taxpayers (who are footing the bill for his upkeep and enormous sums in Legal Aid) as well as Abu Hamza’s alleged victims deserve far better. But I cannot see them getting anything better from any UK government as far as this matter goes and it does not show our "strength" - it makes us a laughing stock..
Nobody in their wildest dreams or imagination could accuse the UK government of acting in any was approaching that of “...some authoritarian regime where the civil liberties of the individual have been sacrificed on the alter of public security- a regime that can do whatever it likes to anyone it chooses....” Abu Hamza has been resisting deportation for some 20 years now. Not bad for somebody who, together with his extended family, has been kept here in comfort all that time, supported by the very taxpayers whom he seems to despise for their philosophy, who entered the country illegally in the first place and who has been charged with serious terrorist related offences.
There is an old saying that “Justice delayed is justice denied”. The matters with which he is charged need to be heard for the sake of Abu Hamza and, more importantly, his alleged victims. The UK government has been complicit in facilitating this delay and, prior to the most recent court decision (which was not sprung on them unannounced) they should have had all measures in place for his deportation that same day. The Home Office statement following the decision that “We will work to ensure that the individuals are handed over to the US authorities as quickly as possible." was clearly ineffective.
There is a vast difference between being seen to act fairly in accordance with the law and prevarication almost beyond credibility. UK taxpayers (who are footing the bill for his upkeep and enormous sums in Legal Aid) as well as Abu Hamza’s alleged victims deserve far better. But I cannot see them getting anything better from any UK government as far as this matter goes and it does not show our "strength" - it makes us a laughing stock..
which as you say has the likes of this man laughing all the way to the bank.
it's quite grotesque that we have other British subjects in fear of their lives waiting or being extradited to the US, who are patently not terrorists, or have terrorist affiliations, yet we have not been able to ship this monster from our shores, someone who has preached hate and destruction to the things we hold dear. We are more than a laughing stock. If Cameron were to personally put this man on a plane this evening he would get a bit vote of confidence from a beleaguered electorate.
it's quite grotesque that we have other British subjects in fear of their lives waiting or being extradited to the US, who are patently not terrorists, or have terrorist affiliations, yet we have not been able to ship this monster from our shores, someone who has preached hate and destruction to the things we hold dear. We are more than a laughing stock. If Cameron were to personally put this man on a plane this evening he would get a bit vote of confidence from a beleaguered electorate.
Related Questions
Sorry, we can't find any related questions. Try using the search bar at the top of the page to search for some keywords, or choose a topic and submit your own question.