UK Liceincing Law Q

[cassa333]

Hello,

I f anyone can help with a question about liceincing question.

I belong to a group that use a local community centre and when we have events the centre opens the bar for our visitors to use. They have a full liceince.

They have agreed that for us to raise extra funds for our group we can run a bar of our own making but not with their bar stock. They would have to make sure that someone from our group would be responsible in law etc.

We would in effect go the shops and buy the drinks and sell them at the events and keep the profit.

Question 1. Would we need a special liceince for this? or do we just use the centre liceince?

Someone has also said that we can have a donation bar with suggested donations but can't enforce prices, without a liceince.

Question 2. If we went for a donation bar can we, if we made it clear, say it was for our own group? or does it have to be for a seperate charity cause?
Question 3. Does this need a special liceince?
Question 3. And if yes can we do it on all events or is there a maximum number of these donation type bars allowed?

Thank you in advance for your time and help :)

[Maydup]

The up to date licencing process licences the premises not the people. So we no longer have to go to the magistrates court and gain a licence.

So the cnetre is licenced and the sale of alcohol will come under that licecne. It can be sold between the times listed on their licence and must follow any restrictions or conditions of that licence. they cannot pass on those responsibilities to u, they are still responsible for what you do.

Its good practice also to have someone on the premises with a Personal Licence. I were them I'd want one of my staff there while yo're sellingt he alcohol to ensure you act responsibly and I'd make sure that person has a PL.

So basically you can do all you list in your post, but it is done under the Premises Licence of the centre. If you carry on selling after hours for example or have a loud party in the street, its them who will lose their licence.

[plautus]

Are there any such things as licensing hours these days? When I was young they were very strict: 11 am - 3 pm, then later, 6.00 pm to 10.30 pm. I only ask because when I went out to do my shopping very early this morning, I passed the local hostelry before 9. 00 am, only to find the local vagrants quaffing ale at such an unearthly hour.

[Maydup]

We live in a world where 24hr drinking is possible but not all establishments apply for the whole lot. Most apply for something like 8am - 1am and open and close whever they like within those limits. Clubs go for longer but they have to abide by more conditions on their licences to trade all night.

Few open as early as 8am but like to have the right to do so in order to hold a breakfast function or to show sporting events from the other side of the world at that time of the day.

[cassa333]

Thank you.

They are now saying the have to check with ACAS as they would normally employ staff to do the bar.

My point was that they employ casual staff when they are needed (the bar isn't open unless booked) so they would not be taking anyones job away from them!!

Is this right do you think?