Can the dead talk to us?

[naomi24]

Something a bit different to talk about. Last night's offering from 4thought TV.

The presenter mentions controlled experiments that suggest it is a reality – personally I don’t know of any experiments that are verified - but he also says he seems to have a faculty of mind that takes his awareness beyond his physical five senses to become aware of things that others simply cannot be aware of. Is that possible?

http://www.4thought.t...dy-byng?autoplay=true

[ShallowQueen]

I don't think it matters if the dead can talk to us or not, it's all to do with religion or with the voice in your head, go with what ever you believe.

[ShallowQueen]

Naomi24, why do you care so much about such things if you're an unbeliever? your arguments need to be questioned!

[jomifl]

By your own admission Khandro, quite simply your dog does not know the time, he just knows when you are going to take him for a walk, hadn't you figured that out yourself? I thought for a while that you were going to tell us that he communicates telepathically telling you the time and not forgetting to allow for summer/winter time. I guess your distrust of thinking and relying only on vision has not helped your intellectual development. It is just as well that others do your thinking for you.

[naomi24]

Birdie, an argument that resorts to a personal attack upon a fellow debater speaks for itself. That was horrible, it was inaccurate, and it was uncalled for. I would have hoped such a deliberate attempt at character assassination would have been beneath you – but apparently not. You’re out of order.

ShallowQueen, we’re not talking about religion here, but as an apparently new member of AB perhaps you are unaware that if you want to question my arguments on that subject elsewhere, you’re perfectly at liberty to do so.

[naomi24]

Birdie, although, in an effort to support this rambling nonsense, you’ve chosen to edit one of my sentences, my position is not illogical, I do not lie, and I do not make fatuous accusations. In my opinion nothing is ‘supernatural’, and therefore that word, just like the words ‘sin’ and ‘atheism’, is superfluous to requirements. This isn’t the first time your hot head has led you to grab the wrong end of the stick, but I’m not going to join you in your penchant for mud-slinging. It’s unnecessary and it’s silly. I was rather hoping this thread would produce some interesting discussion a little bit different to the norm, which it has done until now. If you can’t discuss a subject without insulting people, I suggest you don’t try.

[Khandro]

If the dead could speak to us, they might show less disharmony than you two, please calm down my screen is melting and consider that we'll all joining them afore long. :-)

[naomi24]

I'm calm.

[naomi24]

Birdie, stop. You're making a twit of yourself - again.

[Theland]

How would any of you attempt to explain Colin Fry and his apparent ability to obtain information about audience members by claiming contact with the dead?

[LazyGun]

@Theland - I would explain Colin Fry in exactly the same way i would explain any other professional entertainer who claims to be a medium - Sally Morgan and that ludicrous individual Derek Acorah for example - its an act. Its fake. Its not magic, its not contacting the dead. Its cold-reading. Its forms filled out by the audience to give the "medium" valuable information upon which to base his act. Its ringers in the audience listening in to conversations in the run up to the show and passing nuggets of information to the entertainer via microphone.

If you want entertainment of that nature, watch Derren Brown - at least he is honest about the fakery involved.

[naomi24]

Theland, if you notice all those shows have a disclaimer attached to them stating that they are for entertainment purposes only.

[mibn2cweus]

The need for evidence is made redundant by the multitudes willing to pay good money for the privilege of being in the company of others who wave their banner of mutual belief as their standard of proof.

[Khandro]

^ "mutual belief", - I don't think so, more like an entertaining suspension of belief, as happens when watching, say, a horror film.

[naomi24]

:o)