Bereavement leave not recorded

[Iggle Piggle]

Hi folks,
Does anyone know how I stand with unrecorded bereavement leave?
Some holiday allowance was used up but I think it should have been bereavement, however the company have no 'official' record.
What to do ?

[woofgang]

Difficult if you have nothing in writing. Did you officially request special leave and, with respect, who died? If its a close family member and then there would likely be a presumption that the company's leave policy would apply.
You say you "think it should have been bereavement Did you clarify this at the time.
I don't mena this harshly, just need more info to be able to answer.

[dzug2]

I don't believe the company has to allow bereavement leave at all.

If it has a policy of allowing it though you should ask them to correct what is possibly just an error

[boxtops]

We have a policy in my NHS organisation of allowing up to six days in any one year for special leave, which includes bereavement. It is recorded as such.

How did you request the leave, if it was by email to your manager you would have a record?

Incidentally when my father died 20-odd years ago and I worked in industry, such a thing was unheard of - I was allowed 2 days' compassionate leave then the rest had to come from annual leave.

It really does depend on your company's policy - look up the annual leave/other leave policy, see what it says and how you should request it.

[jno]

compassionate leave's not uncommon, but you need to check your company does actually provide for it, and whether you actually asked for it. If you didn't, but they do provide for it, no harm in asking them to correct their records retrospectively (it might be useful to have some evidence of the bereavement, though).

[ummmm]

6 days isn't much is it :-/

[chris1957au]

Did you have to fill out a leave application? or put in a written request if so there should be a record of the type of leave requested and granted this should enable you to get the records changed

[boxtops]

no it's not ummm, but it's a standard "reasonable time" - otherwise sadly it might be taken advantage of. If people need longer they request annual leave - or if in a bad state (not good words) they can get a sick note.

[Iggle Piggle]

The company I worked at is small (<20 employees) so it was accepted that when my mum died, I would take a few days off naturally. I believe I returned to work much too early (after 3 days) yet the company are suggesting I took a week off.
Then 18 months later my dad died and pretty much the same thing happened, even my workmates thought I was back too early.
It's complicated ... !

[boxtops]

sounds hard, iggle -- but did you perhaps make a note in your diary or on a calendar at home, to show you weren't working?

PS there is no right duration - I too went back quickly after mum died, I needed the distraction - it only caught up later when another close relative died too, shortly after. Everyone deals with it differently.

[tonywiltshire]

There is no legal requirement to provide compassionate leave unless it is an express term in your contract of employment. Most reasonable companies will provide paid leave following the death of a dependant, which again must be reasonable, say 2/3 days.

[cathfromsaron]

where i work, if you are responsible for organising the funeral then you can have special leave and time off for the funeral, but unless it is a close relative only time off or the funeral applies!

but you can get compassionate and sick leave for shock and distress etc anyway!

hope it gets sorted soon x

[Iggle Piggle]

Problem is, who is going to believe me and my diary / notes and the company with their 'no official record' ?
This situation is the foundation of work stress, the need for unpaid leave and indirectly my exiting the company.
Even my legal advisor is stumped !

[ubasses]

Is their no record of you signing in when you went back. My Company always allowed 10 days a year, and as we signed in everyday in a book, evidence was always there

[Skyline D]

I'm confused here. Not sure if it's just me. What is the actual problem? Is it that you were made to take holidays and you don't think you should have been? Or that there is a dispute several months down the line as to how much time you actually had off at all? Or both?

Either way, I'm not really clear on what odds it makes now what you took in days off 18 months or more ago? That must have been a previous holiday year and you've either had too many holidays or not enough. It's lapsed now anyway.

[cassa333]

My OH knows where he was every day for the past 10 years and when he resently had to write about visits to a particular site could go back and say exactly when he went.

If it is such a small company can't you talk to the person in charge and disscuss it with them?

[LyndaB]

My company allows one week's bereavement leave for close family members, and two weeks for immediate family members. I had no problem taking one weeks leave when both my parents in law died - had it been my own mother or father, it would be two weeks. It all depends on the divisional company.

[LyndaB]

*individual

[ojread2]

https://www.gov.uk/ti...ependants/your-rights

However, being paid for it is down to your employer

What, exactly, was/is your issue? Not being paid? Or something else?