Good idea or not?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.telegraph....amily-passengers.html

1/ Banning novice drivers from carrying passengers altogether.

2/ Ban on carrying anyone other than family members as passengers.

3/ Leaving things as they are.

4/ Your suggestions.

[237SJ]

I think the idea behind it is that young people tend to drive recklessly when they`ve got all their mates in the car. They show off and gee each other on. They might not be so inclined to do that if they are on their own or have the sobering influence of a family member with them.

[emmie]

i remember my youngest sibling learning to drive, he was being given some lessons initially by another older sibling. the youngest nearly killed all three of us, by stepping on the go much too fast pedal. i hasten to add i never got in the car again with him until many moons later. He is in fact a very good driver now, but is a good deal older and somewhat wiser.

[cazzz1975]

A lot of young drivers are very conscientiousness and careful, its a shame that they all seem to be portrayed as out of control nutters. I think things should be left as they are personally.

[Prudie]

55-64 year olds 194 deaths
65+ year olds 482 deaths

Actually Gromit statistically that is not a valid comparison. One covers a 10 year range and the other around 25 years.

[friedgreentomato]

Older drivers are downright dangerous driving powerful cars at well under the speed limit and then they speed up when you try and overtake them - don't bother indication - don't bother with checking mirrors.

make them sihe test after they turn 60!!

[emmie]

little info from the link i provided

In the UK only one in eight driver licence holders is aged 25 or under, yet one in three drivers who die is under 25.
(Figures obtained Driving Standards Agency’s press office, 2008) (2007 statistics from the Department for Transport and Police Service for Northern Ireland 2008)

[dickythecook]

Raise the age limit for driving to 25. That would solve all the problems. No young people being killed or killing. Anyone under 25 caught driving shall be shot immediately as they are likely to a criminal of the worst sort or a terrorist!! This should bring the ins. premiums down for us older (and more careful) drivers

[Mick-Talbot]

237SJ

I think the idea behind it is that young people tend to drive recklessly when they`ve got all their mates in the car. They show off and gee each other on. They might not be so inclined to do that if they are on their own or have the sobering influence of a family member with them.



How about only allowing them to have their sensible mates in the car?

It's stupid, either raise the age or leave it alone. You can not give them a licence then say.......

"you can't have passengers because you could possibly be one of those easily lead, show off moronic idiots"

[Gromit]

Dickythecook

If the driving age was raise to 25, you would still have novice, inexperienced drivers.

[NOX]

It's a dreadful idea for a lot of reasons. One of my sons pays nearly £3k for car insurance, and he;'s to be told then that he can't drive half the time and not with anyone in his car with him? Is that right or fair? Apart form that being grossly unfair, it also encourages a nanny state atmosphere which discourages young people from growing up and taking responsibility for themselves. If people are going to drive they have to understand that they are in control of a very lethal weapon. To my knowledge that is really not rammed home anywhere near enough, instead you can be told, like one of my lads that you've failed because you drove at 28 mph in a 30 limit and there was a danger you might hold up the traffic. Seriously?!?
If your driving examiner is going to encourage you to drive at all times on the cusp of the limit ( in my opinion so that they can fail you and cream in another test fee for the Govt) then no wonder we're getting the level of accidents there are.
I'm in favour of it staying as it is and the manner in which driving is examined being overhauled.

[askyourgran]

Absolutely stupid. My Gdaughter is car sharing with her friend for work every day. She's paying a small fortune in insurance and maintainence for her car. How on earth are they supposed to get experience if they are to be penalised before they start. Boyracers are the problem.

[anotheoldgit]

Mick-Talbot

/// How can they be safe to drive but not safe to carry a passenger?
Where is the logic? ///

Just think about it, young inexperienced driver with a car full of his mates, foot hard on the gas, showing off to his mates, comes to a sharp bend in the road, need I go on?

In the likelihood of an accident only one is at risk not 4 or5.

[chrissa1]

Friedgreentomato. You wouldn't be saying that if you were 59.

[rockyracoon]

Boy wants to take girl to pictures, boy meets girl at cinema for 7.30pm, 11pm boy has to let girl get 2 buses home as he's not allowed to give her a lift. Ridiculous idea, make tests harder and bring in harsh, compulsary safety awareness courses and increase punishments for dangerous driving.

[anotheoldgit]

askyourgran

/// Boyracers are the problem. ///

That is rather sexist, the young female of the species are now equally at fault.

In my experience they appear very arrogant in their small but fast cars, they will cut you up, don't tend to use their indicators, check their make-up in their rear view mirror, and play around with their in car entertainment,

If they happen to have a youngster on board they will forever be turning around checking their infant, to say nothing of choosing to carry their infant in the off-side passenger seat, so they open their rear passenger door out onto the road, and dangerously stand there in the road while they unfasten their youngster from it's car seat.

[Mick-Talbot]

In the likelihood of an accident only one is at risk not 4 or5.



What about other road users?

[sp1814]

AOG

As a proportion of all accidents involving a young person (18 - 25) driving at allegal speeds. Do you think it's a 50/50 split between young men and young women?

I'm not asking for research or figures, but gut instinct. Do you think that teenage girls are as likely to show off behind the wheel as young men...young men fuelled with testosterone?