Does It Look As If We Will Ever Get A Referendum On The Eu?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2261450/Wed-MAD-leave-Europe-David-Camerons-covert-battle-madness-cutting-ties-EU.html

/// The Prime Minister was also ‘pleased’ at US President Barack Obama sending a clear signal that the White House is opposed to the UK leaving the European Union. ///

You are the British Prime Minister, listen to what the British people want, not what Obama wants.

[Iluvspikey]

And Norway apparently, because if we come out they know they've not got a chance of their peope voting to go in.

[whiskeryron]

It is so ,so simple we vote to come out of being forced to be European. We then retain our British status, we vote for a government that looks after OUR interests & we continue to trade with europe & also free trade with every other parts of the world. Can somebody please tell me what is so wrong with that ?

WR.

[Baldric]

WR,
where are we going to find a government that looks after our interests?

[anotheoldgit]

We are unique in the fact that we also have a commonwealth that we could trade with, apart fro Europe.

[bazwillrun]

As Nick Farage says...Germany produce Mercedes Benz cars...they sell us tens of thousands of these every year, we pull out of the eussr are they going to not sell us their cars ?

[anotheoldgit]

I wonder how they will sort this problem out?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21002988

/// Home Secretary Theresa May said in November that temporary curbs could not continue under EU law and the government was looking instead at limiting access to benefits and the NHS to reduce the "pull factors" that encouraged migrants to come to the UK. ///

That is of course if the EU lets us.

[naomi24]

Baz, "There was, however, a referendum on whether or not we should remain"

//yes, remain in a trading union and trading only , not on whether we remain in a trading union with total domination and subjugation and destruction of a sovereign nation.//

Yes. Perhaps I should have expanded on that.

[New Judge]

The scandal about the issue whenever it is raised is the misleading information that abounds. It is said, for example, that 3 million UK jobs “depend on [our membership of] the EU”. This is incorrect. It may well be that 3m jobs are in businesses that trade with other EU nations but that trade is not dependant on our membership. As I have said many times, astonishing as it may seem to some people, non-EU nations manage to conduct trade both with EU nations and elsewhere with no difficulty. Yes, it is very convenient to be part of a free trade area. But the baggage that is hung round our necks and which is growing by the day now far outweighs those conveniences.

There is no earthly reason why, to facilitate trade, the EU has to dictate to the UK regulation for matters of working hours, bidding processes, banking capitalisation, the distribution of benefits and employment law to name a very few among a great number of areas of interference.

To suggest that the EU has been instrumental in keeping the peace is preposterous. Its two crowning achievements - the single currency and free movement of people - have done more to destabilise the area than any single government could ever have done.

As has been pointed out, the UK government should understand that the country was taken (without reference to the electorate) into a “Common Market” and the organisation was still very much a trading bloc when the confirmation referendum was held. In the 35 years or so since the EU has changed beyond recognition and poses a serious threat to the UK’s integrity. It’s high time the people were asked what direction they would like to go in the future.

[bazwillrun]

"There is no earthly reason why, to facilitate trade, the EU has to dictate to the UK regulation for matters of working hours, bidding processes, banking capitalisation, the distribution of benefits and employment law to name a very few among a great number of areas of interference. "

no reason whatsover...........unless of course its all part of the bigger plan a superstate, you cant have one big superstate controlled from brussellsls all the different provinces having different legislature etc etc, why on earth do they want political and financial harmonisation just to trade

[jake-the-peg]

Seems to me at last the pro Europeans are finding a voice

The Little Englanders have gotten used to nobody challenging their disinformation

They don't seem to like it much

They also don't like blaming the person who signed Britain up to a larger European Union and not a trading block

They know who it was but it's a Tory idol

Here's a clue she did it at Maastrict

[jno]

TCL, you are correct, thanks. Same result, though: the British voted for Europe.

And a quote from yesterday's paper, which seems quite reasonable: "Britain does not dream of some cosy, isolated existence on the fringes of the European community. Our destiny is in Europe, as part of the community."

No need to point out who said it, of course

[anotheoldgit]

jake-the-peg

/// Seems to me at last the pro Europeans are finding a voice ///

And who are these pray? there doesn't seem to be many about on this thread.

/// The Little Englanders have gotten used to nobody challenging their disinformation ///

If all else fails why not come out with those old worn out labels such as "Little Englanders".

Yes such views must feel strange to those who can only class those that care for our country as such.

Time we got rid of our shackles, and got back to being 'GREAT ENGLANDERS'

[Old_Geezer]

It's too useful as a 'jam tomorrow' type of promise. You'll get a referendum when Nigel Farage or his successor is PM.

[plowter]

What would be the question?

[Old_Geezer]

Here's a clue she did it at Maastrict
John Major ?

[bazwillrun]

Unfortunately no government will hold a referendum unless its virtually garaunteed to get the outcome that it wants.