Isn't the Ribena ad a bit misleading?

[nick_UK]

It says that at least all 95% of UK blackcurrents make it.

Yet it only contains 5% of fruit juice from concentrate per 100ml which means a large glass: 250ml contains just 12% fruit juice from concentrate.

That is totally misleading!

[bednobs]

n it isnt, it seems perfectly clear to me - they are comparing 2 totally different things
1)the percentage of uk blackcurrants that are bought by ribena and used in ther drink
and 2)how much juice is in every drink ... only misleading if you are thick, surely?

[cully]

The thing I always remember about Ribena is that when I was in hospital for a year in 1973 it was the ONLY drink (apart from tea and water and, occasionally, beer) that the ward sister would allow in the ward. Apparently, all other like beverages were rubbish ripoffs saturated with sugar whereas Ribena was very good for you.

[nick_UK]

Thats funny because in the early 1990's Glaxo smithkline received a slap on the wrists because of the amount of sugar they put in Ribena and Lucozade. To be honest with you Ribena,Lucozade,Robinsons orginal and Coca-Cola all have the same sugar content and it is actually proven to boost your emotional feelings and give you a boost for a short while.

Vitamin enriched drinks with sugar are good because they are good use in rehydrating,energy giving,vitamin supplements and allows me to control my sugar levels these for example are:

Ribena (Vitamin C)
Sunny Delight (Vitamins A,B and C)
Red Bull (Vitamin B12 and B6(Thiamin)
Robinsons fruit shoot (Vitamin c)

Lucozade was also an example of a healthy drink is hospitals. It gives you an energy boost but has no nutritional values except for being high in Carbohydrates. It is not recommended for replacing fluid lost through diahroea as described on the bottle lol.

Unfortunetly they cannot put too much Vitamin C(Ascorbic Acid) in Lucozade Original,orange,apple or tropical flavours because it contains Sodium Benzoate preservative and when drinks both contain vitamin c(Ascorbic acid) and Sodium benzoate and then come into sunlight contact, it can form Benzene which is a cancer causing chemical which can be naturally formed in this way or be manufactured, this is the cancer causing chemical found in cigarettes.

Sodium benzoate is also used in shampoo!!!!!!! And if you don't believe me check out your nearest bottle of Pantene

[lmao]

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[cully]

Perhaps they messed around with the contents between 1973 and the early 90's. The sister, I recall, was particularly scathing about Lucozade and wouldn't allow it in the ward.

[nick_UK]

Well Ribena has always contained Vitamin C but has always contained a lot of sugar. But as you probably know Glucose especially glucose-fructose syrup provides you with energy.

Glucose: Quick energy boost similar effects as Caffeine but wears off quickly.

Fructose: This is fruit sugar and provides slow release energy.

Lucozade just provides glucose which quick release energy at very high cost between �1.79 and �2.20 per 1 litre bottle. Thats why the sister probably said it was a rip off.

If you like Ribena, I would suggest that you'd choose the original Ribena over Lucozade. And whatsmore the cordial style Ribena lasts longer and you can even add hot water too it making it a hot winter drink. You can also do the same with Vimto.

But remember 5% fruit juice from concentrate per 100ml is 6 teaspoons of juice per 100ml. They could make it a bit higher.

In the 1990's they introduced 'No added sugar' Ribena which is called Ribena Light, its very low in Calories and contains sweetners instead of sugar. This was because parents of very young children were concerned about the sugar rotting teeth at an early age.

[ojread2]

"In the 1990's they introduced 'No added sugar' Ribena which is called Ribena Light, its very low in Calories and contains sweetners instead of sugar. This was because parents of very young children were concerned about the sugar rotting teeth at an early age."

So they added cancer causing sweeteners instead, fab eh?
Smithkline and Beecham will tell you that Ribena light is Not recommended for children under the age of 3.
The 'Full fat' version of anything are far better for children than the sugar free version. Aspartame and other sweeteners can be linked ot cancer and obesity

[nick_UK]

Theres still no strong evidence that sweetners cause cancer and the number of calories in Aspartame is 2 calories per teaspoon so how can it be linked to obesity?

People who consume far too much sugar who also eat too much fatty food and who do not do any excercise will become obese and its not rocket science.

An italian research was done on mice with Aspartame and the mice got tumours. So what,we're human beings not mice! Mice and human beings a very much different.

I eat and drink anything I want at anytime and have medium sized portions all the time but do plenty of excerise and I am quite active which is how I maintain to be 10stone and not go through extreme lengths such as crash diets and stupid diets like atkins and low sugar this and low fat that. I like to enjoy life without thinking about calories and weight all the time, this is simply how anorexics and bulimics think all the time and its not right!

Those diet sodas and drinks which contain sweetners are very suitable for diabetics who must not exceed level 6 with there blood glucose.

[ojread2]

There are many istes that say this about sweeteners; you only have to google. These sites will also explain the link to obesity - here is one that has both in the title http://www.wnho.net/new_aspartame_studies.htm (Italian research)
Just because some one has a high sugar diet it does not follow their diet is also high in fat
Aspartame is also banned from use in children's food

[ojread2]

Sorry, pressed enter before I had finished

What ever advice or research you choose to believe, I prefer not to take nay chances. Aspartame has been, according to some readin gI have done, in chemical weapons

[nick_UK]

Thanks for that. Its just that Aspartame has been present in food since 1989 and has been marketed as being safe and when you have been using something for such a long time you tend to avoid reading the bad points about the particular product.

You say that Aspartame is banned in childrens foods and drinks, then why is it in Robinsons Fruit shoots when that is aimed at children aged 3+?

Oh and all such drinks like Ribena,Robinsons and Sunny D are not recommended for under 3's because they are very rich especially with the natural colouring.

[brachiopod]

Misleading ? No.

This has nothing to do with sugars, aspartame, fruit content per 100ml, or vitamin content.

If GSK or their subsidiaries buy up 95% of the UK's blackcurrant crop -then that is accurate, nomatter how they dilute it - the constituents, as delivered to the consumer - are totally irrelevant.

[nick_UK]

I agree.

But where we the discussion started about Aspartame ect.... we all went a bit off topic and i know its got nothing to do with the 95% blackcurrant claim.

But do consumers really need/want to know that?

[brachiopod]

But do consumers really need/want to know that?

No, but do we need Ribena, Cheese-Strings, i-Pods, Persil or Cherokee 4x4 car-things? Not really - it's just them trying to flog us stuff. [Technical term there !! ;o) ]

[nick_UK]

I know this is off-topic now but had to just show someone! I was looking for the Food standards agency to query Aspartame and typed in www.food.org.uk

The website is awful! I'm sure it was the Food standards agency before using this site.

[ojread2]

Did go off on one didn't we :blush:
Nick-uk, this is why these so called kids drinks are so confusing. Where the 'children's food' bit stops is at aged 3. go figure but that's why Aspartame is in Fruit Shoots ( and shoot them I would!) and other drinks that appear to be aimed at kids of all ages.
You will still find it in Meds though as they come under different legislation
It's interesting stuff if you get into it, honest lol
ojx

[nick_UK]

Well for those who don't want Aspartame in their diet, the orginal added sugar drinks are still available, these include:

Gerber Foods soft drinks:
Sunny Delight (Florida and California style only)
Ocean Spray range
Um Bongo
Welchs juices
Libby's Juices
(Unfortunetly SunnyD Orange and pineapple flavour and the caribbean style only come in 'No added sugar version'.

Glaxo Smithkline:

Ribena Original Blackcurrant,strawberry and orange
Lucozade Original
(Unfortunetly Lucozade sport contains a mixture of sugars and sweetners)

Robinsons drinks ltd:

Robinsons original
Robinsons smooth juice* Just like sunny D

Coca-Cola Enterprises:

All range of drinks including Dr Pepper,Sprite,Fanta and Minute Maid with the exclusion to drinks with the phrase 'Zero' or 'Diet'. Unfortunetly, Schweppes branded products including Canada Dry contain a mixture of sugars and sweetners including the orginal versions.

If you haven't got diabetes and if your not overweight, I really don't see the need for Diet/No added sugar drinks. My dietician said that active people need that amount of sugar.

In fact, Sunny Delight contains less sugars than pure orange juice and less calories as proven by the label on Tropicana. So people would rather give their kids Sunny Delight No added sugar or Tropicana Original, but not Sunny Delight Added sugar. What is the point of that? Tropicana still contains natural sugars, all sugar whether its added or natural still damage your teeth if you don't brush them in time and both still contain calories.
In those added sugar drinks, they use ordinary cane sugar and glucose, these types of sugar actually contain less calories than fruit sugar(Fructose) but both still have the same effects on teeth. Consult your dentist for further info.

This website

[picnick]

A percentage does not change with a quantity. 5% of 100ml is 5ml. 5% of 250ml is 12.5ml. It's still 5%!