Probation Order Idap

[ChrisMac999]

I have today been written off work for two weeks due to stress and depression due to the regular violence inflicted on me by my ex girlfriend, who due to me reacting to on one occasion I was subjected to IDAP.

In IDAP yesterday I broke down and told them that "it is *** I am here after everything she has done to me, and sorry to say what you dont want to hear but I would do the same Fluffing thing again if someone treated me the way she has"

I am on anti depressants and the doctors agree that this is all down to her behaviour.

The course tutor yesterday acknowledged that if what I am saying is true I should not be on IDAP, medical evidence backs up my claims to be true.

Can I reasonably still be expected to comply with IDAP given the clear detrimental effect on my emotional wellbeing?

I have every intention of attending my next appointment, but given my deteriorating health and how part of this is down to having to complete IDAP after everything she has done to me I feel it is not in my best interest to do so.

What would a Magistrate likely sentance me to instead? Bearing everything in mind, would he still be likely to give me a custodial sentance?


Medical Experts and Probation representative all agree that I should not be made to complete it if my claims are true - medical evidence back up this to be the case. But my Offender Manager has a different opinion !

[Orderlimit]

Did you have legal representation ?

If you miss two Idap meetings in any of the modules without reasonable excuse then that amounts to a breach of the order and you will be sent back to court for re-sentencing.

[Orderlimit]

Sorry, more than two meetings

[Peter Pedant]

If a court has ordered you to IDAP
you have to be pretty crazy not to follow a court order

whether or not your best friend has told you Mrs Jiggy up the road did exactly that and nothing happened.

Look at the prog The Sheriffs are Coming - currently playing at 11 am BBC1 to see what happens to be people who ignore court orders to pay.....


I think you also have to work on your Offender Mgr and by that i dont mean work him over.

[ChrisMac999]

you mention there the without reasonable excuse. Does my mental health not class as reasonable excuse????

[bednobs]

the thing is, you did it, you admit you did it and you are being punished for doing it. It's not supposed to be easy, otherwise it's not punishment. If she regularly abused you, then really i can't understand why you didn't just leave, rather than let it get to the point where you did something to her. It doesn't really matter if you don't feel you deserve the IDAP - you have to complete it. I think you can reasonably be expected to comply

[Buenchico]

>>>I would do the same Fluffing thing again if someone treated me the way she has

Oh, brilliant! You've actually told the Probation Service that you'd do the same thing again; so how the hell can you expect them to support you in getting out of a programme which is meant to change that attitude?

Anyway, Offender Managers have no powers to vary court orders. You need to speak to a solicitor about the possibility of returning to court to get the order varied or rescinded.

[Peter Pedant]

Oh BC
I didnt mean the fluffing Offender Mgr could vary a court order
I had jumped to if he applied to a court for a variation, then in order to succeed, he would need the Offender mgr on his side