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No Right Hook From Ed Then?
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I reckon Prezza's reaction was spot-on, nothing from Ed though.
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On a serious note though I think it is pretty disgusting our politicians cannot walk the street without attack.
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On a serious note though I think it is pretty disgusting our politicians cannot walk the street without attack.
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I think you are over analysing Andy, of course no one thinks a minister punching someone is correct but at the time I most uf us were thinking "good on yer", moronic oiks throwing eggs can't have it all their own way! Prezza just showed he was human. Oh and it was left jab, if you watch the film he was doing the classic boxer's tee up, left jab followed by right cross, he showed restraint by not delivering the latter! Look on facetube I can't access that here.
OK - we can agree to differ then.
You take the stance that 'Prezza' is some kind of jolly type, but prone to fly off the handle, but hey, that's just his way, he doesn't mean any harm.
I take the stance that at the time, Prescott was a highly paid member of the government - Deputy Prime Minister no less, and as a public servant paid a large salary from the public purse, should learn to control himself and act with the dignity and professionalism that goes with his status and that high salary.
You advised that the original culprit was, quote 'an unedicated oik', which is fine, as long as you accept that by similar retaliation, Prescott becomes the same type of individual. Fine for a stranger in the street - not so fine for a government minister.
But - as I say, we can agree to differ,
You take the stance that 'Prezza' is some kind of jolly type, but prone to fly off the handle, but hey, that's just his way, he doesn't mean any harm.
I take the stance that at the time, Prescott was a highly paid member of the government - Deputy Prime Minister no less, and as a public servant paid a large salary from the public purse, should learn to control himself and act with the dignity and professionalism that goes with his status and that high salary.
You advised that the original culprit was, quote 'an unedicated oik', which is fine, as long as you accept that by similar retaliation, Prescott becomes the same type of individual. Fine for a stranger in the street - not so fine for a government minister.
But - as I say, we can agree to differ,
Tora - I assure you there is very little analysis required or offered here.
I saw an idiot thow an egg, and an idiot throw a punch - nothing to fistinguish between them - except that one is a member of the public, and the other is a government minister, and the Deputy Prime Minister.
If you are trying to excuse Prescott's action by suggesting that he showed some kind of Queensberry restraint, that makes the entire incident even more laughable - were it not so disgusting - than it already was.
I saw an idiot thow an egg, and an idiot throw a punch - nothing to fistinguish between them - except that one is a member of the public, and the other is a government minister, and the Deputy Prime Minister.
If you are trying to excuse Prescott's action by suggesting that he showed some kind of Queensberry restraint, that makes the entire incident even more laughable - were it not so disgusting - than it already was.
I thought the shoe throwing at President George W Bush was an acceptable political act.
and let us not think - no: let us not forget - that is let us think
of the old crone who threw the stool at Dr Sacheverell in 1709
and the juries refused to convict didtn they
(The crone didnt like wht he was saying in a sermon)
and let us not think - no: let us not forget - that is let us think
of the old crone who threw the stool at Dr Sacheverell in 1709
and the juries refused to convict didtn they
(The crone didnt like wht he was saying in a sermon)
andy
\\\I take the stance that at the time, Prescott was a highly paid member of the government - Deputy Prime Minister no less, and as a public servant paid a large salary from the public purse, should learn to control himself and act with the dignity and professionalism that goes with his status and that high salary.\\
His "highly paid salary" is cr@p in my opinion..£100,000 per annum for a deputy prime minister.........whatever the salary and whatever the position that does not give them ability to refrain from what i consider to be a human response.
I would go further, to the female brat that threw paint over Mandelsson, I would have picked her up, lifted up her skirt and smacked her @rse....cameras or no cameras.
\\\I take the stance that at the time, Prescott was a highly paid member of the government - Deputy Prime Minister no less, and as a public servant paid a large salary from the public purse, should learn to control himself and act with the dignity and professionalism that goes with his status and that high salary.\\
His "highly paid salary" is cr@p in my opinion..£100,000 per annum for a deputy prime minister.........whatever the salary and whatever the position that does not give them ability to refrain from what i consider to be a human response.
I would go further, to the female brat that threw paint over Mandelsson, I would have picked her up, lifted up her skirt and smacked her @rse....cameras or no cameras.
We can indeed andy and thank God ( who ever he is ! ) that we can.
But I am not sure it did Prezza any long time harm. In fact, I would have thought that people generally warmed to him a little more. After all, didn't Oscar Wilde say some thing like " if there is one thing worse than being talked about, its not being talked about at all" ?
In the same way that Major's reputation was done no harm when it came out that he had had a long-term affair with Edwina. Before, I used to think that he was a well meaning but bumbling chap. Now....well he's still a bit of a Mr Bumble but with a glint in his eye perhaps. After all, Edwina was a very attractive woman.
I think that on the whole, we like our Politicians to be a little more human, rather than stuffed shirts.
But I am not sure it did Prezza any long time harm. In fact, I would have thought that people generally warmed to him a little more. After all, didn't Oscar Wilde say some thing like " if there is one thing worse than being talked about, its not being talked about at all" ?
In the same way that Major's reputation was done no harm when it came out that he had had a long-term affair with Edwina. Before, I used to think that he was a well meaning but bumbling chap. Now....well he's still a bit of a Mr Bumble but with a glint in his eye perhaps. After all, Edwina was a very attractive woman.
I think that on the whole, we like our Politicians to be a little more human, rather than stuffed shirts.
mikey - "I think that on the whole, we like our Politicians to be a little more human, rather than stuffed shirts."
I entirely agree, but i would prefer that they showed their humanity by being human, rather than sleeping with other men's wives, or brawling in the street.
I competely understand that politicians are human and instinctive like the rest of us. But that does not negate the fact that with the job comes the responsibility.
If you are going to be a government minister, then you are undertaking to uphold the laws, moral and legal, as established by the country over which you govern. To transgress instantly removes any shred of dignity and propriety you have, and makes anything you say about moral or legal wrongdoings laughable.
Prescott could never stand in the Commons, and cannot stand in the Lords, and make any comment at all about street brawling, because his action has removed that right - which is why politicians have to be models of what is considered acceptable behaviour.
I don't make society's rules, but I to a lesser, and they to a greater degree, must live by them. With the profille, the money and the power, comes the responsibility - you don't get to behave like a DPM and then have an occasional few minutes off while you punch a stranger - life is not like that.
I entirely agree, but i would prefer that they showed their humanity by being human, rather than sleeping with other men's wives, or brawling in the street.
I competely understand that politicians are human and instinctive like the rest of us. But that does not negate the fact that with the job comes the responsibility.
If you are going to be a government minister, then you are undertaking to uphold the laws, moral and legal, as established by the country over which you govern. To transgress instantly removes any shred of dignity and propriety you have, and makes anything you say about moral or legal wrongdoings laughable.
Prescott could never stand in the Commons, and cannot stand in the Lords, and make any comment at all about street brawling, because his action has removed that right - which is why politicians have to be models of what is considered acceptable behaviour.
I don't make society's rules, but I to a lesser, and they to a greater degree, must live by them. With the profille, the money and the power, comes the responsibility - you don't get to behave like a DPM and then have an occasional few minutes off while you punch a stranger - life is not like that.
Take your point Andy, but Prescott's action at the time did show the idiots that throw these things that there can be consequences. I doubt the clown that threw the egg at Milliband will be prosecuted as it would undoubtedly be twisted to look bad on Ed.
I'm certainly no labour supporter but he should be able to walk the streets without this sort of thing happening.
I'm certainly no labour supporter but he should be able to walk the streets without this sort of thing happening.
