What Can Be Done To Curb These Fraudsters?

[anotheoldgit]

This latest insurance scam seems to be on the increase even after one went horribly wrong when Innocent female motorist Baljinder Kaur Gill, was so tragically killed.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2232954/Innocent-female-motorist-34-killed-gang-staged-crash-cash-insurance-scam-busy-motorway.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2396005/Cash-cash-gang-filled-bus-26-fake-victims-staged-accident-car-make-bogus-compensation-claims-totalling-250-000.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10088332/Driver-to-be-investigated-after-17-whiplash-claims-in-eight-years.html

[Old_Geezer]

Compulsory cameras videoing situation in cars might help.

[FredPuli43]

Whiplash claims are not new as a device for fraudsters. They've been going for twenty years, helped by the medical profession and dozy insurance companies. Somebody eventually noticed that some towns had far more such claims than others. A Professor of medicine who specialised in neck and spinal injury wrote to The Times, a while ago, explaining that a whiplash injury was actually quite rare, certainly so when it had any form of lasting effect worthy of anything much in damages.

[Gromit]

// Almost 80 far-Right extremists are trying to claim for whiplash injuries after a coach crash – when there were only 25 people on board the vehicle and just 57 seats.
Supporters of the English Defence League have been accused of attempted insurance fraud after dozens sought compensation for neck injuries.
The claims were lodged after the coach carrying members to a rally was in a collision in which it sustained minor damage. //

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1341692/English-Defence-League-claim-78-got-whiplash-crash--25-coach.html#ixzz2cDurcfVt

[anotheoldgit]

/// Yesterday even EDL supporters were protesting over the stupidity of so many making claims. ///

/// Member Alan Spence wrote on the party’s Facebook site: ‘Are you taking the p*** or what? There were only 20 people on the ****ing coach.’ ///

/// Hel Gower of the Tyneside branch said: ‘Don’t look good, does it?’ ///

/// No-one was available for comment at the EDL. ///

I think all that can be said, has been said, know to get back to these 'foreigners' scams.

[Gromit]

They are charged with manslaughter. If they are convicted, they will go to prison and will not be able to run the scam any more. Their prison sentence will deter others. People deliberately causing a crash to defraud insurance companies should be imprisoned.

And if the perpetrators are 'foreign' we should tut loudly, possibly shaking our head as well.

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// And if the perpetrators are 'foreign' we should tut loudly, possibly shaking our head as well ///

Yes couldn't agree more, just as you did over the EDL members eh?

[douglas9401]

I wonder if it was something in the air here that made these creatures turn to crime or if there is a record of criminal deeds in their homeland.
If there is a history of crime recorded against their names should this not flag up as they cross our border and trigger at least a brief meeting with the authorities in the UK?

[Gromit]

// Yes couldn't agree more, just as you did over the EDL members eh? //

I confess I did not tut loudly at the EDL member fraud, I laughed out load.

Interesting that you never posted then what could be done about such fraud. I have said the people involved in this case should go to prison. You never said any thing such about the EDL fraudsters. You never condemned them or even acknowledged they had comitted a crime. Your only comment was because someone had used a Daily Mail link, and in ypur warped thinking that made them hypocrits for even bringing it to our attention.

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question971659-2.html

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// Interesting that you never posted then what could be done about such fraud. I have said the people involved in this case should go to prison. You never said any thing such about the EDL fraudsters. You never condemned them or even acknowledged they had comitted a crime. Your only comment was because someone had used a Daily Mail link, and in ypur warped thinking that made them hypocrits for even bringing it to our attention. ///

First let me question your own warped thinking?

Yes I hold my hands up I never did criticise them, my excuse is the fact that it was just after Christmas and I still had the Christmas feeling for my fellow ABers, and also the fact that someone had beat me to entering a discussion on that story.

But having read the way that that ABer had approached his thread, made me choose to attack his and other haters of the Daily Mail for using a story from their paper just because it fitted their narrow minded view point.

These are the people who soon latch on to abusive and insulting words when and if they are allowed to directed at other members of certain groups, but do not shy away from using such descriptions as "knuckle dragging scum" against others.

Yes I stand by my accusations of hypocrisy, because that is precisely what they are.

And just so that you can sleep at night, can I now put it on record that anyone who breaks the law, no matter be them black or white, Muslim or Christian, EDL members or UAF members, homosexuals or heterosexuals male or female etc etc etc, should be punished in accordance to the seriousness of their crime,

Incidentally Gromit do you keep a record of my long gone posts, how sad and warped is that?

[Gromit]

// Incidentally Gromit do you keep a record of my long gone posts, how sad and warped is that? //

No I just typed "EDL whiplash" in the search box above and read your reply.

[emmie]

harsher penalties when caught, and the medical people often do know it's going on, at least the traffic police and indeed the paramedics who have to show up when this happens. I was watching for my sins, an episode of traffic cops, and the police know full well when it's a iffy case, as do the paramedics, however it can't be proven that it wasn't 100 percent the cause of the persons injury, but they do know it goes on, and will bring prosecutions when the so called injured parties are found to be uninjured, at fault. One poor woman was caught up in this nightmare, bloke stopped suddenly, and she didn't have time to move out the way and went straight into the back of the blokes car, the way it was described was quite clear she wasn't to blame... luckily she wasn't hurt, but was quite upset.

[dave50]

Everyone knows where the hotspots are in this country of these crash for cash scams and everyone knows what these places have in common. Except of course the usual people who like to pretend that this is not the case and will bend over backwards, jump up and down and go round in circles trying to shout down this inconvenient truth.