The Other Side Of The White Man's Suppression Of The Native American?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2396760/How-Comanche-Indians-butchered-babies-roasted-enemies-alive.html

[emmie]

do you have evidence, a link to that..

[Zeuhl]

From the Survival International website

Deep in the Amazon rainforest a small tribe of uncontacted Indians is on the run, fleeing chainsaws and bulldozers as logging companies penetrate their forest home. That this is genocide is indisputable.

In May 2001 FUNAI secured a legal order prohibiting anyone from entering the area, known as the Rio Pardo Indigenous Area. This meant that an area of 166,000 hectares was set aside for the Indians.

However, loggers, land grabbers and colonists are pouring into the area and pressure on the Indians' land is mounting. Once the loggers have felled the forest, the land will be taken over by ranchers to convert into soya fields or pasture for cattle. The logging roads will facilitate the entry of colonists and land grabbers.

If the Brazilian authorities fail to protect the Rio Pardo Indians and stop the loggers, yet another Brazilian tribe will be consigned to history. The annihilation of a tribe, however small, is of course genocide.

[emmie]

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/nov2004/2004-11-12-03.asp

[Zeuhl]

Here's a link emmie

lots of nasty stuff still being done to Native Americans in South America


http://www.survivalinternational.org/

[emmie]

seems somewhat out of date, i wonder it's just the white man who is involved in this? as suggested by keyplus, his assertion that brought me back to this post.

[Zeuhl]

Yes that is welcome news emmie

all they have to do now is police it and enforce the rules

something they have been very poor at in the past

[Zeuhl]

/seems somewhat out of date, i wonder it's just the white man who is involved in this? /

what 2001? and as you may see from the website, issues like that are ongoing

how are you defining 'the white man'

In Brazil for instance, the power base is predominantly of european descended people; the victims predominantly Native American

So of direct relevance to the OP

[emmie]

there are locals and indeed drug cartels now involved in this trade http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_drug_trade_in_Peru, having shifted somewhat from Columbia, where there is money to be made, be in logging, clearance of land you will find all sorts mixed up in it. It is just this idea that the white man as taker still pervades our news, it does rather annoy me because it isn't just them, but anyone who wants to make money the supposed easy way..... like those two stupid stupid girls,
carrying the drugs,

[emmie]

considering the nature of the trades and the size of the areas involved it must be a huge task to police it effectively.

[emmie]

white like white Europeans...

[Zeuhl]

like Portuguese?

or like the current President who is Brazilian born

Dilma Vana Rousseff (Portuguese pronunciation: [ˈd(ʒ)iwmɐ ˈvɐ̃nɐ ʁuˈsɛfⁱ] born 14 December 1947) is a Brazilian politician who has been the President of Brazil since 1 January 2011.

The daughter of a Bulgarian entrepreneur, Rousseff was raised in an upper middle class household in Belo Horizonte

[emmie]

someone mentioned the conflict in Srebrenica this was genocide, and i have a problem with this extinction theory of keyplus.

The Srebrenica massacre, also known as the Srebrenica genocide,[7][8][9][10][11][12] was the July 1995 killing of more than 8,000[1][13][14][15][16] Bosniaks (Bosnian Muslims), mainly men and boys, in and around the town of Srebrenica during the Bosnian War. The killing was perpetrated by units of the Army of Republika Srpska (VRS) under the command of General Ratko Mladić. The mass murder was described by the Secretary-General of the United Nations as the worst crime on European soil since the Second World War.[2][3] A paramilitary unit from Serbia known as the Scorpions, officially part of the Serbian Interior Ministry until 1991, participated in the massacre,[6][17] along with several hundred Russian and Greek volunteers.[18][19]

[emmie]

perpetrated by a Bosnian Serb against Muslims, i am sure there were atrocities committed by all sides...

[emmie]

i don't suppose those caught and captured by these pirates were too happy to be sold into slavery, never to see their homelands again, the figures are quite staggering when you look at it, committed by North Africans on mostly Europeans.. i am well aware one could do this forever and a day, man is a cruel beast, and if there is money to be made, it doesn't matter the colour of the skin, nor does it seem to matter killing your fellow Muslim, Christian, Jew, and so forth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_pirates

[Zeuhl]

I agree emmie

Brutality all round

which is what made aog's notion that the people who invaded and then committed genocide against the Native Americans were just another type of 'immigrant' particularly distasteful

[emmie]

don't we say the same of the Romans, Normans, they weren't there to make nice, they were there to conquer, and take the spoils, it may be a while ago. but it did change the way of life back then, after all the tribes that were in residence may have to some extended gone along with the Romans in the hope that they trade and live their lives, but once the Romans reneged on the deal with Boudicca then their gloves were off... flogged her and raped her daughters. She set them to the sword because of it, had they been more peaceable life may well have been quite different in ancient Britain

[emmie]

had Hitler invaded Britain, that would have changed the face of Britain and the rest of Europe... the white man is not noted for his like for others of the same ethnicity....