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Sackings Over Cameron Humiliation
// At least five Government ministers face the sack in the wake of David Cameron’s humiliating failure to secure parliamentary backing for military strikes against the Syrian regime.
Mr Cameron lost the parliamentary vote by 13, after 30 Tory rebels voted with Labour. Another 31 Conservatives failed to vote.
Senior Tory sources indicated tonight that the positions of ministers and the Downing Street adviser who did not vote were in jeopardy as recriminations grew over a parliamentary defeat which is unprecedented in modern times.
“The Prime Minister is pretty angry,” said a senior Tory source. “This vote had a three-line whip and no, they didn’t all have permission to miss the vote.” //
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A couple of observations.
1. Missing the vote by not hearing the bell is a pathetic excuse. If it is genuine, they they should be sacked as ministers for being grossly incompetent. If it is a excuse so they didn't vote, then the should also be sacked for moral cowardice.
2. There should not be a three line whip on something such as military action where an MPs vote is the difference between some people dying or not. It is a moral issue and MPs should vote with their conscience. Those Conservative MOs who voted against the bill should not be reprimanded.
3. The debacle was the fault of Cameron and the Government whips. They seriously under estimated the country and the feeling within their own Party.
Anyone disagree?
Mr Cameron lost the parliamentary vote by 13, after 30 Tory rebels voted with Labour. Another 31 Conservatives failed to vote.
Senior Tory sources indicated tonight that the positions of ministers and the Downing Street adviser who did not vote were in jeopardy as recriminations grew over a parliamentary defeat which is unprecedented in modern times.
“The Prime Minister is pretty angry,” said a senior Tory source. “This vote had a three-line whip and no, they didn’t all have permission to miss the vote.” //
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A couple of observations.
1. Missing the vote by not hearing the bell is a pathetic excuse. If it is genuine, they they should be sacked as ministers for being grossly incompetent. If it is a excuse so they didn't vote, then the should also be sacked for moral cowardice.
2. There should not be a three line whip on something such as military action where an MPs vote is the difference between some people dying or not. It is a moral issue and MPs should vote with their conscience. Those Conservative MOs who voted against the bill should not be reprimanded.
3. The debacle was the fault of Cameron and the Government whips. They seriously under estimated the country and the feeling within their own Party.
Anyone disagree?
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I don't know much about politics but I do feel that MP's should vote (or not) on behalf of their constituents. So I feel that being forced into voting because of the party ethics is wrong. Why should they do that? Should they not vote of what they know is popular or what the party want? Rubbish to me, it's the vote of the country not one particular member as far as I can see.
Tora Tora Tora,
I have been posting that Cameron is useless and not up to the job since 2005.
On Thursday, he was the first PM to lose a vote on war since 1782.
Am I suppose to ignore that? So as not to upset some raving right wingers who are suddenly passionate about the suffering of the Syrian people under Assad.
The same Syrian Government and Army that John Major and Bush Snr welcomed as allies to Operation Desert Storm.
I have been posting that Cameron is useless and not up to the job since 2005.
On Thursday, he was the first PM to lose a vote on war since 1782.
Am I suppose to ignore that? So as not to upset some raving right wingers who are suddenly passionate about the suffering of the Syrian people under Assad.
The same Syrian Government and Army that John Major and Bush Snr welcomed as allies to Operation Desert Storm.
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