From Prom Queen To The World’S Most Wanted Female Terrorist,

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2435791/From-Home-Counties-prom-queen-worlds-wanted-woman-How-White-Widow-obsessed-Islam-schoolgirl.html

Does all this prove that Islam can be a bad influence on our young, and what can be done to prevent this kind of thing from spreading?

/// The friend revealed how she and Samantha Lewthwaite attended gatherings where Muslim preachers would warn them to ‘stay away from kufars’ (non-Muslims). ///

[emmie]

you only have to look online, that doesn't mean to say they would be successful, but it is worth doing.

http://ec.europa.eu/dgs/home-affairs/what-we-do/networks/radicalisation_awareness_network/about-ran/

[andy-hughes]

From Prom Queen to Terrorist is a typical tabloid hook for a little hate-baiting, which the Mail excels in.

It does not prove that Island is a bad influence on our young at all. It does illustrate (but not prove, a vital distinction) that all terrorists were once teenagers, just as they all drank milk as babies, and played with their friends, and grew out of clothes, and the myriad other things that all children do on their way to adulthood.

The notion of corruption by bad habits of a bewildering variety, of which radicalism is only one is a matter of the individual, and the circumstances.

I would rather look at preventing the spread of alcohol poisoning which is far more widespread, and does far more damage than the ponderings of a right-wing newspaper with no evidence that this woman has been involved in the latest atrocities at all.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// You said that you didn't know of any schemes to prevent youngsters becoming radicalised. ///

/// There's this one: ///

Yes but do they work?

An excerpt from your link.

*** But critics of Prevent say it is not working. Birmingham Perry Barr MP Khalid Mahmood says it is having little effect on those who need the most help. ***

*** "The problem with the Prevent programmes that we've had don't get to the hard to reach people. There are still people out there who are people radicalised and we've got to make every effort to make ensure that doesn't continue.” ***

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// I know many muslim people who were indoctrinated when young, just as I know christians who were. ///

On a scale of 'one to 10' how many of Christians take part in terrorist activities?

/// If you want to live in a country without religious freedom AOG, I suggest you move to Russia. ///

With your record of past attacks at religion (excluding of course Islam) I would have though you would have emigrated to Russia years ago.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

Yes much better to ignore all the newspapers, TV and Radio reports etc, etc and live in the wonderfully world of utopia.

That is until one day that imaginery world comes crasdhing down.

Too late to then say, "what happened there? nobody told me about it".

[sp1814]

AOG, you asked how kids can be prevented from being indoctrinated and I gave you my answer, that I don't believe you can.

Then I sent you a link to details of a scheme currently being funded to tackle extremism.

You asked about it's effectiveness. You and I will never know, because for the scheme to work, nothing will happen (ie. that young man or woman who was going to 'go rogue', instead chooses to work as a pharmacist or graphic designer or builder and leaves fundamentalism behind.

Therefore I think I've answered your question as well as it can be answered.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - nowhere in my post did I suggest, or do I advocate, ignoring the media.

It simply requires a little filtering to extract the facts from the stirring - as in this case.
As far as I am aware, and I haven't been following events closely - there is no proven link between the woman referred to as the 'White Widow' and this latest atrocity - and that was the point I was making.

Speculating with colourful adjectives is not news, it is speculating with colourful adjectives - we should not mistake one for the other.