If you want to avoid large numbers you can write
12!/8!=12 x 11 x 10 x 9
Now divide this by 4! gives
(12 x 11 x 10 x 9)/(4 x 3 x 2 x 1)
After cancelling this becomes
(3 x 11 x 5 x 3)=495
One of the most annoying parts perhaps of mathematics is the obscure and sometimes overlapping notation. Numbers in brackets arranged in a column means a vector to me, and when I do the 12!/8!*4! thing I would write 12C4 which means the same and avoids a clash. But notation is extremely tricky and even in the highest levels of mathematics there is often inconsistency over what things mean.
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