Why Are There No Proper Checks

[trt]

on people from abroad.

Surely there's a big problem in checking out people who come into the UK, in paying all this money out and somebody should be held responsible!

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/435639/1million-gang-flies-in-EU-benefit-scroungers

[emmie]

so a link provided is to be discounted on the basis it's from a tabloid

[emmie]

from The Telepgraph, one of the links provided


A total of 91 foreign nationals were charged with murder and 406 accused of rape last year.

In London, of the 547 people charged with rape in the past 12 months, 174 were non-UK citizens.

They included immigrants from Afghanistan, Angola, Ghana, Macedonia, Russia, Zimbabwe and Chile.

Kent has the highest proportion of foreign murder suspects with 53 per cent being non-UK citizens, including four people from India and three from Romania.

[emmie]

and they are only ones they know about....

[jake-the-peg]

Look criminals are no respecters of national borders - they never have been

British National arrested for fraud in Gran Canari

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2375033/British-female-ringleader-Paula-Beatson-44-58-arrested-Gran-Canaria-selling-timeshare-properties-dont-exist.html

British Criminal gang of 10 in Spain

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20547306

One in Ghana

http://www.modernghana.com/news/348508/1/british-national-arrested-for-sim-box-fraud.html

etc

etc

etc

People are behaving as if there's some sort of check box are you a criminal yes/no on border entries

Criminal gangs have all sorts of ways of getting across borders

The important thing is catching them and that means co-operation with international police forces like Interpol

And it certainly doesn't mean opting out of the European arrest warrant like this brain dead government is proposing


If we do that then we'll be back to having criminals thumbing their noses at us from the mainland while we spend months or years in extradition hearings

[jake-the-peg]

So what do you draw from that Emmie?

That foreigners are rapists?

[boxtops]

It's been very publicly aired that there have been swingeing cuts in Immigrations staff across the country. How can the staff who remain, do the job, when there are now so few of them?

[emmie]

some obviously are, we have lax rules or staff with regards to entry to UK, time to bolt the door, if there were better checks from both countries, a national database, then why can't that be typed in as they come through border control, run their passports over a scanner, there should be a flag up if they try and get through the gates in UK if they have a criminal record.

[boxtops]

Daft, isn't it, when my OH got stopped when we were coming back from holiday, just because he'd shaved off his beard, and asked for other photo ID.

[OILhead]

Does that work both ways then Emmie? Would people from the UK with a criminal record be stopped from travelling to other European countries, or at least flagged when they try to enter?

And also I don't think the suggestion was that the link was to be discounted as it was from a tabloid, but because it was from a site/publication called muslim rape watch, which doesn't exactly imply it's a credible or balanced source of information does it?

[emmie]

so how do this foreign crims get through the system.

[emmie]

maybe it would depend on the nature of the crime, but quite frankly i dont see why other countries should be landed with our detritus, nor ours, theirs

[emmie]

that wasn't the only link, and i didn't read, see that one.

[emmie]

perhaps it would be a good way to make people behave, tell them you won't be able to travel abroad if you have a criminal record. draconian i know

[sir.prize]

If the UK followed the lead of the Australian Border Control and Immigration Service there would be big improvement in the system.

Many undesirables arriving in Oz are weaseled out and deported quite often same day.

[ChillDoubt]

jtp,
If you have issue with or dispute any of the figures given in the links please by all means feel free to post links/figures/data of your own that would question or be a total contrast to the information provided in mine.

[trt]

I said that in my 2nd post sir.prize and thanks for your input. Well said emmie and others that have agreed with my post.

Something has seriously got to be done before this Country goes further down the drain.

[Nibble]

Probably, because due to the rise in the number of countries within the EU & Schengen agreements, and coupled with the rise in low-cost airlines based in Europe, coupled with cross border co-operation between criminal gangs, then the "Gangster" tours of the cntinent will continue. As Europol have repeatedly stated, the criminals can & DO catch 4-5 flights/day starting in wherever their "home" is, then spend the day flying to a chosen target, rob whatever, then home to dinner with family.