Liverpool Lullaby

[horseshoes]

Watched the Cilla Black thing last night. Did anyone else notice that the words to the song had been changed from " ....... and when he hears the things you did, you'll get a belt from your Da", to "... you'll get a row from our Da". Is this a silly PC thing again?

[Sqad]

LOL....no, didn't see it.........but well spotted.

[horseshoes]

I think it's rather creepy. It's almost like the people who deny the holocaust - bit of extreme analogy but you get my drift. I'm sure children DID get a belt from their Das. We know they definitely still do! It happens. We know its wrong but no use denying it happened (s).

[Connemmara]

never got the belt from my da in my entire life but did from the wee woman.

[rockyracoon]

After this was mentioned last night I googled the lyrics, I've heard plenty worse in modern songs so I really don't see why they needed to change them.

[pips1]

What was the relevance of changing Littlewoods to the Lottery then?

[solvitquick]

Sorry, missed it but remember song very well. The line was: "You'll get a belt from your dad" Not not da'". Defo not "row" - silly "update". Littlewoods refers to winning the once-Littlewoods Football Pools i.e. the poor-stricken's only hope of getting out of poverty (like today's lottery). Hence the chance of buying a house in "posh" Knotty Ash - yes it is a real area of Liverpool.
Song written by scouse folk writer/singer Stan Kelly.
"Belting" kids by drunken fathers or even sober ones is a nasty thought now but was accepted corporal punishment in the 50's/60's.
Thought and think it was and is a great song about a poor mother's love for her child (whether he was a hard case or not).
SIQ.

[Sipowicz]

Solveitquick, re Da or Dad, read last paragraph.
http://www.feniks.com/skb/music/lull12.html

[solvitquick]

Dear Sipowicz,
By this "dad" or "da'" thing I mean that the original song word was "dad" with the N. England hard "a" sound. Calling father da' with the soft a like daaaa , in Liverpool at least, da' is (or was) typical of Irish decent. So a Livepool-Irish person would talk of "me da'" rather than "me dad". It's a small point compared with "row". No racialism here, by blood I'm half English and half Irish - nationality English. Many SE Eglanders may like da' as they like their long, soft "a"'s - they take a barth rather than a bath, lol.
Long time making small point, sorry.
SIQ.

[bundleone]

I never liked that song, but I do like Cilla 'You're my world' is great and most of her other songs.

[sandyRoe]

Littlewoods was the pools company that paid out big. A win there, 8 score draws, was like winning the jackpot on the lottery