Cameron Surrenders To France

[jake-the-peg]

So after the Government's inability to reach an agreement with EDF over building a nuclear power station because they couldn't agree on a price for the electricity now it's all agreed.

And the price is double todays price per MW

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24604218

Apparently the great victory is that for the first time a nuclear powerstation is not being funded by the Government!

I wonder how many of these could be built by British firms for the cost of HS2 - any ideas?

More to the point - who's paying for the decomissioning?

[bazwillrun]

It really doesnt matter who builds, who funds etc or what type of power it produces and from what it produces the power.

We will never see "cheap" power again in any way or form, now that the profits that can be made from it are well entrenched in the accounts of these companies and all those that that make their fortunes from it.

Power is an essential to life and as such they have a captive market, everybody needs it one way or another.

it really doesnt matter in the big picture , because we are there to be fleeced one way or another

[emmie]

make of this what you will

http://www.carbonbrief.org/blog/2013/10/green-bills-small-portion/

[bazwillrun]

@emmie

nothing new to be honest is it

it was always know that the environmnet was going to be a great way to get money out of peoples pockets

just out of interest, assuming we are still on this planet, whats going to be the tack, not if but when we start entering the next ice-age !?

[mikey4444]

Baz...the last ice age was approx 60,000 years ago, so I don't think we have to worry unduly about the next one !

[emmie]

cold weather kills off many, have a look at figures for last year, if you can't afford to heat your home or part of it, then those who are elderly may find themselves heading to the morgue a bit sooner than they would like

[emmie]

more to fear from rain, flood, and fire than a potential ice age.

[jomifl]

Decommisioning costs are a fantasy, the amount depending on your agenda. For the ultra greens the power station could be removed completely and reinstated as a place where babies can picnic amongst safely grazing sheep. Alternatively the power station could just be turned off allowed to cool down and left for a couple of centuries. In view of the need for more power stations it is most likely that the ancillary buildings(heat exchanger, turbine hall, condensers etc. will be replaced with new and a new reactor placed next to the old mothballed one.

[sir.prize]

Ahhh this is the wonderful EDF.

According to the company’s own figures, reported to Ofgem, complaints for the 12 months from October 1 last year soared by a record 35 per cent to 707,783 with one in eight customers expressing their dissatisfaction.

This compares with 514,678 complaints for the previous year.

Hardly getting better are they?

[emmie]

i am with EDF, have been for a long while, but i keep the bills down, some are not able to, i think that energy has been the elephant in the room for a long time, and that successive governments have failed to tackle the hard questions, and now it's coming home to roost.

[jno]

love the idea of an elephant coming home to roost in its room

[mikey4444]

jno...me too ! Make an awful mess of the carpets if it did !

[emmie]

for those who don't know, or care to.


"Elephant in the room" is an English metaphorical idiom for an obvious truth that is either being ignored or going unaddressed. The idiomatic expression also applies to an obvious problem or risk no one wants to discuss.