Guilty ?

[youngmafbog]

http://news.sky.com/story/1165582/uk-muslim-chief-slams-his-war-crimes-sentence

Is this man guilty or is it a massive smear campaign?

//Bangladesh-based journalist David Bergman, who has reported on the war crimes case for more than 10 years, said the tribunal has been front page news in the country.

He said that Mr Mueen-Uddin "is criticising this particular tribunal and he may well have legitimate reasons for that, but I don't think that takes away from the fact that there is substantial, significant evidence in the form of affidavits, eyewitness testimony and other evidence".//

If there is a case and it does ratehr look like there may be something there, why is he wondering around free in this country?

I wonder if the Secret Services know about him? Are they looking into it?

[jno]

because he hasn't been convicted of anything here?

But if you're seriously hoping someone will come on here with a 10,000-word analysis of standards of justice in Bangladeshi tribunals, good luck.

[bazwillrun]

I remember an interview and various articles where he made it pretty clear that hed be pretty happy if the uk was turned into a muslim state

[jno]

that's not an offence.

[youngmafbog]

//because he hasn't been convicted of anything here? //

Not sure how that is relevant. A war crime is a war crime surely, and I'm pretty sure we would not have allowed to let the Nazis run around or any Yugoslavian ones.

Or doesn't it count if it's a Muslim being accused?

[anotheoldgit]

Hope you have more joy than did?

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1288548.html

[jno]

we don't extradite people to countries where they might face the death penalty - I think there was a thread on this the other day. Once they've decided he's staying here, I don't know that we have any duty to lock up people found guilty in foreign parts.

The death penalty proviso didn't apply at the time of the Nazis; and I don't think Yugoslav war criminals face hanging, though I'm not sure on that one.

[Zeuhl]

The answer is at the end of the linked article

/Neither the Home Office, nor Bangladesh authorities would say whether extradition requests have exchanged hands.

It is, however, convention that the UK does not extradite to countries that have the death penalty./

Yugoslav war criminals were prosecuted by the international court in The Hague which has credibility and international support

Clearly, the Bangladeshi system and their charges against him don't

otherwise Mr Mueen-Uddin would have been extradited some time in the past 40 years

[youngmafbog]

I'm not advocating extradition to Pakistan. Even I am pretty sure the trial would not be fair there and although I believe in hard justice it has to be fair.

I am saying though is that if there is some evidence, and there does appear to be, shouldn't the International courts be involved and resolve it one way or another? I dont think any right minded person would want a war criminal amongst them , let alone leading a group of people a few of whom have links to terrorism.

And if he is innocent then he can get on with his life.

[Zeuhl]

/I am saying though is that if there is some evidence, and there does appear to be, shouldn't the International courts be involved and resolve it one way or another?/

That's a good point

Bangladesh was only ratified for The Rome Statute in 2010

/The Prosecutor may open an investigation under three circumstances:[40]

when a situation is referred to him or her by a state party;
when a situation is referred to him or her by the United Nations Security Council, acting to address a threat to international peace and security; or
when the Pre-Trial Chamber authorises him or her to open an investigation on the basis of information received from other sources, such as individuals or non-governmental organisations./

Maybe Bangladesh would resent the International Court stepping in because they consider their own process takes precedence

Maybe they are content that his conviction and sentencing works for them domestically without them having to do anything else

The UK probably just wants a 'quiet life' as he's lived here respectably for 40 years and is an important (useful) figure in British Muslim circles

"Help us out with this mate or we may review the Bangladeshi extradition requests"

[ludwig]

Impossible to say. He could be guilty as charged or completely innocent. There are so many liars about it's hard to tell. I wouldn't trust him, or the Bangldeshi authorities either.