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Thanks to those seeing my point. Yes could be son in law doing for my bday n all, but should be for their anniversary. OH says he would like to sod off for the day and let them get on with it. My daughter is my life and when I asked her what they were doing for their 25th she just said, nothing as yet. I know she would like something but her OH does not usually take charge. Will wait to see what happens, I'm not miffed for me, I want so much for her to have something as she is suffering from cancer so my concern is for her no one else. Thanks guys, your comments are taken on board. X