I Give Up

[Purple_Popple]

Why do men only want hook ups...sex with no strings...does no one want a relationship anymore ? Im baffled...

[RATTER15]

Sqad, I expect any woman I date to have some respect for herself, by that I mean she is unlikely to let some randy guy that she hardly knows start groping and "caressing" her. Passionate kissing is a different thing but even then, not on the first date, a fist date should be little more than a peck.

[Sqad]

RATTER

\\\\ a fist date should be little more than a peck.\\\

Blimey........I agree no "Budgeting For the Credit Crunch" on the first date.

Why don't you "play it by ear" instead of having these hard and fast rules with women?

[Sqad]

RATTER.....2nd sentence has been censored by the AB police.

[Nibble]

Do you mind, sqad, personally I've not EVEN had my brekky...... PLEASE

[RATTER15]

Sqad, I have no set standards, I just expect a woman to have a little dignity for herself. You clearly don't give a hoot as long as you get your leg over, its a good job some of us do care about the women we choose and once we make that choice we are faithful to them.

[Sqad]

RATTER.......LOL.....LOL

[RATTER15]

Sqad, you have made it glaringly obvious that you have no respect for Women, you have made it very obvious in previous posts that you have slept with many "slappers" and cannot be faithful to your wife and have little respect for her so I really don't think you are in the position to give any advice on dignity, respect or morals, do you?

[EDDIE51]

I think around 90% of men who use internet dating sites are just looking for quick sex, in fact most sites seem to be designed for that purpose.
You need to get out and meet people in the 'real world' not easy I know but better than the internet.

[Sqad]

RATTER.....LOL.....LOL.....LOL

[anneasquith]

RATTER. I think sqad has a great imagination, and a short memory. ill bet you mrs, S, wears the trousers in their marriage,

[boxtops]

I'm with ratter on this one. Sex (however you define it) is far too readily available to people who just want a quick sh@g. It must be very confusing for the blokes trying to work out who is which, if all they are looking for is to get their leg over, and move on.

[Rosie29]

There is a group whose name escapes me - might be Nexus. You meet with other people and do stuff together like have a meal, go for walks, concerts, films etc. I have a friend who was happy with the more informal type of meetings. Hope this might help.

[Scarlett]

I know that nobody will agree with me here, but I do think that that is exactly what men want. Watch ducks chase each other round the park. The males are driven by the need to have sex. The females are driven by the need to reproduce and nest. So the women generally (not always and certainly not me) want cosiness and marriage, the men know they have to agree to marriage if they are going to get sex regularly. However, these days, as Sqad says, marriage is not popular anymore. In the olden days men had to date, work hard at wooing, propose, show that they could support their lady by providing security with a home that they could raise children in, whilst he worked. Since women have agreed to have sex without marriage, men are not tied to any agreement, and so now expect sex with a new partner, with no promise of anything more than sex. Not all men of course, but that is now the culture we have; men go on dates to have sex. They have skipped all the stuff that we used to have leading up to commitment, and now just get the bit they are genetically programmed to want. This leaves women either putting out and then feeling lonely, or not putting out and staying single. And yes, not all, but a lot! Read Pride and Prejudice if you want to see how relationships used to operate compared with now.

[joeluke]

'a fist (sic) date should be little more than a peck'

No need for a second date then

[pixie373]

I think it's the other way around, Scarlett. Men used to push women into "needing" relationships. Things are different now, with contraception, financial independence, less stigma on single motherhood. So women don't find marriage essential any more and are freer to behave how they like.
Men and women alike have phases in their lives where they are happy single/wanting a family/meet someone they want to stay with. It's a case of finding the right person at the right time.

[pixie373]

And with all due respect to both, i find both ratter's and sqad's thoughts equally disrespectful. Sqad, at least, is honest, but judging a woman for wanting sex, is a little madonna/whorish for me.

[jim360]

Men seem to get a rough deal in this thread. There are some out there who are genuine and don't just want to get laid asap!

[pixie373]

I agree, Jim.