Wil It Be A Bruising Fir Tge Tories?

[youngmafbog]

Latest poll puts labour just ahead of jkip at 30% to ukips 27%. The Tories trail with 22%. The liberals might as well get their coats now.

Will Cameron accept what the public want with regard to the EU and immigration or will he plough on with his usual arrogance? I am a lifelong card carrying Tory but believe me I have had enough of him so the floaters will definitley leave in their droves. So will it be bye bye Dave?

And looks like Miliband has not got musch to shout about just 3..% more!

[emmie]

i don;t think either party will change leaders at this stage, too much at stake

[tonyav]

Both could do with new leaders though, emmie.

[emmie]

they could, but its too late for that, too confusing, and the country would think it an even worse decision than staying where we are

[mikey4444]

I have just thought about another factor, which might change the way the next year pegs out.

If the Scots do indeed vote for independence, it will largely be an anti-Tory vote, as the Tory Party is even more unpopular in Scotland than it is here in Wales. That factor may see the further decline in the Tory vote south of the border.

Also, if there is a Yes vote, I am not sure how long it would take for full Scottish independence. Its uncharted territory and I suspect that the necessary negotiations between Edinburgh and London will drag on a bit. But it is bound to have an effect on the rest of the UK.

Interesting times ahead !

[tonyav]

I know, emmie, much to close to the general election for changing leaders.

[Gromit]

// Both [parties] could do with new leaders //

The Labour Party had been ahead in the Polls for 3 years. They are not going to change leader.

The problem for Cameron was despite 13 years of Labour Government, the righties failed to vote Tory in enough numbers. He fell short of a working majority and has been hampered by Clegg ever since. Judging from this thread, even more righties are losing faith in Cameron.

If you do not want Miliband as Prime Minister you must vote Conservative. Not voting, or voting UKIP will just make a Labour Government inevitable.

[New Judge]

Better re-post that as it looks rather like a competetion where trandom words have to be put in the coirrect order.

"The forth-coming Euro Elections really don't matter a hill of beans compared to the General Election in 12 months time. "

Agree and disagree with that, Mikey. The forthcoming Euro elections do not matter because MEPs have virtuallly no say over the bilge that spews forth from the EU. Whoever takes up the 750-odd seats in Brussels (with their regular jollies to Strasbourg still continuing, natch) the "European Project" will plough on unabated.However, the Westminster Parliament is becoming increasingly irrelevant as very little it does can be achieved without the accord of the EU.

In a nutshell, without fundamental reform of the EU (if we are to remain in) or withdrawal and the return of soverignty to the UK, voters may as well save on their shoe leather at both events.

[Gromit]

// Better re-post that as it looks rather like a competetion where trandom words have to be put in the coirrect order. //

Have you got an iPad as well? :-)

[New Judge]

No, Gromit, cannot blame the technology. Just a complete cods-up !!!

[New Judge]

And forgot to say thanks to Ed for removing the drivel.