Prompted By Another Thread

[Baldric]

If I remember correctly it was in the late 60's that being Gay was decriminalised. Since then there has been a steady increase in the number of Gay Pride type events taking place and getting more and more publicity. During that time I can't say I have been aware of many, if any Heterosexual/Straight events of that type.
Could it be that the average Straight person is happy in their skin and does not feel the need to prove anything, and the average Gay person feels a need to justify their way of life and to prove something to Society as a whole?

[andy-hughes]

jomifl - " ...a sick bucket essential to viewing."

Why? Do you have a problem with images of people enjoying themselves?

[Khandro]

Jomifl; Thanks for the warning but not only am I not minded to do that research, I have no need to, since involvement in this thread I now have pop-ups (if you'll pardon the phrase) for 'Gay cruises' - apparently there is an Ocean liner dedicated to voyages for homosexuals, and you should see the 3 chaps standing on deck - the mind boggles!
Re. my attempts to convey the atmosphere in that pub in St Martins lane circa 1960, I'll try another system of communication, perhaps smoke or semaphore signals - something like that.

[Ellipsis]

> Could it be that the average Gay person feels a need to justify their way of life and to prove something to Society as a whole?

Until a few days ago I would have said that the average gay person just wants to get on with life and take an equal part in society as a whole. But then the British Film Institute introduced quotas for, among other things, sexual orientation!

How do you introduce a quota for sexual orientation without forcing people to declare their sexual orientation? And how do you accurately measure whether or not the quota has been met, i.e. whether people have told the truth about their sexual orientation? Beats me. IMO such a quota system could do more harm than good ...

[jomifl]

Andy, lets just agree that you and I have different standards of socially acceptable behaviour. I have no problem with people 'enjoying themselves' bur some kinds of enjoyment are best done in private.

[andy-hughes]

jomifl - I fully accepot that our views are different, but to be honest, given the choice between swatcvhing pictures of exhuberant gay men with toned figures have a a good time, and seeing the usual fat ugly trolls of both genders vomiting in the street after a night of alcohol chugging, I know what makes me feel like reaching for a bucket!

[sherrardk]

Presumably that's why they go to gay bars.

[DrFilth]

> exhuberant gay men with toned figures have a a good time, <

andy not all fat people want to be fat and not all gay people have these toned bodies ( you have posted about before )

and before you ask i have been in the company of fat gays and one lives just down the lane from me

some people try lots of different ways to lose weight one from work had his stomach stapled and this turned into a major infection and he nearly died but never mind keep looking through your rose tinted glasses

[jomifl]

Andy, I think you inhabit a different world to me, one I want no part of :o)

[andy-hughes]

Dr Filth - "andy not all fat people want to be fat and not all gay people have these toned bodies ( you have posted about before )

and before you ask i have been in the company of fat gays and one lives just down the lane from me

some people try lots of different ways to lose weight one from work had his stomach stapled and this turned into a major infection and he nearly died but never mind keep looking through your rose tinted glasses"

I would suggest that actually no-one wants to be fat - a fact I am entirely aware of, which is why i didn't think it needed to be mentioned.

I also know that not all gay people have the bodies we might all like - again too obvious to require expression.

Quite why you have diverted this thread onto the subject of weight loss is frankly baffling - and I assure you my glasses are entirely clear - no tinting involved.

[DrFilth]

> swatcvhing pictures of exhuberant gay men with toned figures have a a good time, and seeing the usual fat ugly trolls of both genders vomiting in the street after a night of alcohol chugging, I know what makes me feel like reaching for a bucket! <

was expecting you to mention the jive bunny script

[andy-hughes]

DrFilth - "was expecting you to mention the jive bunny script ..."

Sorry, I am confused - could you explain? Thank you.

[DrFilth]

> Quite why you have diverted this thread onto the subject of weight loss is frankly baffling <

usual fat ugly trolls of both genders ?

> "was expecting you to mention the jive bunny script ..."
Sorry, I am confused - could you explain? Thank you. <


in the past you have been quick to point out that a gay would be more keen to use the gym and have a well toned body

[askyourgran]

I know several gay men, and most of them are very good looking, better than a lot of straights. One or two do go to the gym in keeping with their jobs. At work I found them all nice genuine people who have the same hopes fears and jealousied that we all have. Only occasionally when there is a crowd of gays together they seem to want to 'play the part'. Gay women seem to be harder and bitchier than the men.

[andy-hughes]

DrFilth - "in the past you have been quick to point out that a gay would be more keen to use the gym and have a well toned body"

I would not wish to suggest that this is something I would not say, but I do always endeavour to avoid stereotyping orientations - so I would not imagine that I would suggest that gay men are more likely to use a gym more than any other men - or women.

If you have a link, I would be most interested. Thank you.

[DrFilth]

to be honest i did cut and paste the post you made but sadly it was on the laptop that died so went to that big scrapheap in the sky

i remember your words that you used > jive bunny

[Peter Pedant]

The Salisbury Pub on St Martin's Lane - named after Robert Gascoyne Cecil, had a son who was the author of the Leisure of an Egyptian Official - Ld Edward Cecil.
When the Boer War broke out there was no money in Cairo to fee the British Army so the doughty Ld Eddie wrote out a personal cheque for a million pounds and presented it to Baring Bros in Cairo.

When the banker asked if why the British Govt should later honour such a cheque he answered - because my father is Prime Minister.

I thought you needed toknow that Thank you

[joeluke]

A former (straight) work colleague of mine went to a gay bar with some friends (one of them was a lesbian)

When it was his round he went to the bar where a sizzled 'man' sidled up to him and slurred "I don't believe I've seen your *** yet"

He couldn't get out of there fast enough

[jomifl]

We went with friends to a free jazz manouche concert at a nearby village last night. The only thing we had to buy was the food and drink. An excellent time was had by all, no overt displays of gender orientation, If there were any 'toned' young men it would have been difficut to tell as everyone was fully clothed.
Normal life does still exist. :o)