Fair Sentence?

[Brancaster]

With a string on convictions for violence is society the right place for her try "turn her life around" or would a secure mental institution or prison be more appropriate and safer for the public? Media URL: http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/11402087.Woman_with__breathtaking__record_of_violence_escapes_jail
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[Prudie]

17 convictions from 2010 and before mean up until she was 17 yrs old. One could lay some blame at 'services' that something effective wasn't done when she was being so violent as a teenager. However she must take responsibility for her own actions. think she should be removed from streets, who would want to be the person she may break her suspended sentence for. And Anger Management and less than 3 weeks community service - pointless drop in the ocean.

[ludwig]

You can't help wondering if she'd have been in jail if she'd have been caught stealing something from a posh neighbourhood.

[New Judge]

Sorry, but there is a strong argument to suggest that anybody who commits a multitude of such violent and seemingly random offences might be tuppence short of a shilling.

The criminal justice system needs to decide whether it is there to protect victims and potential victims or whether it is there to sort out the alleged problems of criminals. Personally I believe that the primary function of the CJ system is to take up, on behalf of victims, the punishment of their transgressors. That's the deal. We relinquish the right to sort out people who have caused us grief on the understanding that the state will do so on our behalf. If it is going to be suggested that people who commit crimes such as those committed by this young lady only do so because they are ill then that deal has been broken. She may be ill. She may not be. But she needs to be sorted out, prevented from committing further crimes, and punished for those crimes she has committed. If her illness (real or otherwise) can be addressed as part of her sentence, all well and good. If not, too bad. The needs of the victims must come first.

[Prudie]

I love reading your posts NJ

[ludwig]

He's right of course. The staggering thing is that the judge even says that this person has..

// one of the worst records for violence he had ever seen for a man or woman her age. //

..and then proceeds to do f* all about it. Some people are just violent, and society needs protection from them. The victim in this case could easily have been blinded.

The only good news is that she's clearly such a thug, she'll never make it to the end of the suspension period without offending again. The trouble is someone else will have to get hurt for her to get put away for a bit.

[youngmafbog]

//NHS Mental Health Service has been virtually annihilated// Not true, well not in Bournemouth.

So yes she should be locked up for a good time.

[ludwig]

I used to work with a bloke whose son would go out on the town of a weekend, and inevitably get involved in a fight, every single week.

The thing is, it was never his fault - it was always the other bloke that started it; Some troublemaker that looked at him incorrectly, spilled his pint, chatted up his girlfriend, pushed in at the bar, blah blah blah.

My colleague would be telling me this with a straight face, bemoaning the bad luck his son had to always be the one that bumped into the troublemakers, and I'd be sitting there thinking 'Do you honestly believe this sh1te? Can you not see you've raised a thug?'.
Talk about being in denial. Some people are just violent and nasty.

[ChillDoubt]

Update:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2726219/Yasmin-Thomas-victim-disgusted-walked-free.html

Can't really argue with his rant.

[agchristie]

Butter wouldnt melt...