Britain Should Stop Moaning About Immigrants And Start Building Them More Homes?

[anotheoldgit]

So says European Commissioner László Andor

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2753677/EU-tells-Britain-stop-moaning-immigrants-putting-strain-schools-housing-healthcare-start-building-places-live.html

[boxtops]

There is some very sensible stuff in our local paper this week (and we here are more immediately affected by a lot of the suggestions coming out of Calais) that it's not us the French should be looking to, it's their own stupid open border controls. The UK, withi it's closed border policy, needs to stand firm - we are awash here in this corner with legitimate Eastern Europeans as it is. Our borders are closed to the best of our ability - MyFerryLink had to use fire hoses to repel would-be illegal boarders on one ferry last week. It's a dreadful state of affairs, it's terrifying for private car and commercial vehicles alike.

[boxtops]

^ I know that's not a direct response to your question AOG, but it's all tied up together. Decent homes for our own people ought to come first, without shedloads of resources having to be spend policing and resisting the desperate measures of the rest still trying to come in.

[Zacs-Master]

Philip Hollobone's 'staggering complacency' comment says it all.

[boxtops]

The blog at the bottom of the page is worth a look. The Commissioner is not on this planet. Come here and take a look, mate.

[lindapalmara]

I second that Zacs and Boxtops.

[mushroom25]

mr andor is right in a way - our government is only too happy for incomers to do the jobs that indigenous Britons wouldn't lower themselves to do, but then looks the other way as unscrupulous slum landlords accommodate the willing workforce in garages and garden sheds.

[Svejk]

or indigenous Britons wont do for peanuts.

[New Judge]

They would if they were not feted with money and gifts for sitting on their ar5es all day.

[Svejk]

Do you doubt that the influx of cheap labour has skewed the labour market. My wages are half what they were 15 years ago. I have to laugh when people, on here, bemoan the percentage of their pay rises.

[New Judge]

If you say that's what happened that's good enough for me, svejk. There are a number of reasons for falling incomes and not all of them are to do with immigration.

However, that was not my point. You suggested that some "indigenous Britons" wont do certain work for "peanuts". My suggestion is that they might if they were not paid the same or sometimes more peanuts for doing nothing. It would concentrate their minds if, when there is work available (and there clearly is because we are constantly told that immigrants are snapping up all the jobs), they had no money, no food and no roof. It's called supply and demand. There is demand for unskilled labour, the British will not supply it at the rate offered so other people will. The "skewing" of the market has come about because, as you say, Britons will not work for what they deem peanuts and the State is saying to them "Well never mind, we'll give you some money instead."

[boxtops]

Hear hear, NJ. It's the immigrant population who are doing the cleaning, the car washing, the salad packing, round here. I always said that if I was out of work I would do anything to keep money coming in - people don't think like that any more, not while the State is shoring up whole families who've not worked a day in their lives.

[Svejk]

ever since the black death your ancestors had to offer my ancestors an extra penny a week to secure their services. Labour, by various machiavellian policies, have created a one wage economy. Except, of course, for their power base, who did very well out of them.
Incidentally 60% of the people in the country are now on benefits because of the low wage economy and I think the unemployed account for about 2% of that figure(its definitely less than 5%)

[Old_Geezer]

The sooner we get away from folk who state that sort of nonsense the better. Even if immigrants did all work and pay more tax than they claim benefits that doesn't make them a net contributor. Since there are only so many jobs going any taken by an immigrant means an extra person needing welfare, and the cost of that displacement has to be added in to the calculation. He seems to be saying, "Don't complain about what the EU imposes on you as you have more than a legitimate right to, just get on with accommodating the result of our decisions". It's what one tells servants & slaves isn't it ? "You have no say, do as you are told."