Some Of These Photos Are A Little Harrowing, But Interesting No Less.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2776989/Recovering-fallen-German-soldiers-killed-***-Second-World-War-Brandenburg-battle-discovered-wearing-boots-helmets.html

[kvalidir]

Really interesting article, it's been difficult up until probably the last few years to view the German common soldiers as simply that, by this time in the war trying to protect their homeland from the Russians. Berlin did not have a nice time once it was over run and civilians suffered horrible which is ironic considering Berlin was historically one of the least enthusiastic about the Nazis in the whole of Germany.

[Segilla]

Recently I found my way to a German site which details war crimes carried out in Jugoslavia against Germans. A cave on the island of Rab contained 4000 skeletons of German soldiers walled up and left to die.

http://www.germanvictims.com/2013/06/07/yugoslavian-monsters/

The full extent of human misery caused during WWII is hard to grasp.

[Peter Pedant]

Thx AOG - presumably in the carnage and chaos there was a need to inter the zillions of bodies quickly

Here is a related site
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2775279/For-Fallen-Amazing-photos-capture-stories-far-flung-resting-places-Commonwealth-soldiers-died-First-World-War.html

and at the bottom they have a bit on Musee Albert Kahn - he was the fella who went out and photographed the world.

This is a German exhinition - with a German v/o - and they seem not to realise that he was a German Jew who made a fortune betting on the Prussians winning the 1870 war and then went to live in gay Paree !
Escaped internment in 1940 after the defeat of France by ... dying ( aged 80 )

[Peter Pedant]

Segilla

One of my employers (1980) was a british agent who fought with Tito's partisans. He said he only talked to me because my father was a POW who had mined out of camp.

There were no camps on either side .... so there were no prisoners
Each side shot captured combattants and shrugged their shoulders

If you evacuated a place where wounded were recuperating - but couldnt walk, they were shot as well

as he said - there wasnt anything else you could do

[tonyav]

Cracking aerial photo of the Beaumont Hamel cemetery showing an old trench running just in front of it, PP.

[Zacs-Master]

I played football in the park outside the Richstag building on a lovely spring day. What a sobering photo.

[Peter Pedant]

// During the Battle for Berlin the Russians claimed that their artillery used a greater weight of explosives than the total dropped on the city during the rest of the war by the Allied airforces. //

doesnt surprise me and quite possible
The war was incredibly mechanised by 1945 compared to the start 1939

More tonnage was dropped in one raid Tokyo than all the bombs dropped on London. Because the planes and bombers were ickle in 1940 and bleeding huge in 1945.

More was dropped in bits on Tokyo in 1945 than Hiroshima . All that means is that Tokyo got more than 18000 tons. The Japanese were slow in surrendering after Nagasaki so

[Peter Pedant]

.... ooops curtis e lemay arranged a mega huge flattening of Tokyo ( again ) but I am not sure what was in the final raid.

He [ Curtis E Lemay ] had run out of things to flatten by then

[wolf63]

aog

Thanks for posting this, it was interesting to read and quite sad.

My dad trained as a butcher and then did his National Service doing butchery work. He was in Berlin during the airlifts. He told me that the people were starving and some even asked him to slaughter and cut up their dogs.

Man's inhumanity to man - not my dad, in general and more so today

[Peter Pedant]

Le-May razed 67 Japanese cities using the same tactics.

He ran out of cities to bomb. The displaced population noticed that Hiroshima and Nagaski had seemed to escape being flattened.