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Knocked Up By The Met
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It used to be that you would get compensation for being 'fitted up'. Now you get an astronomical sum for getting knocked up instead:
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That's an eye-watering sum. Whilst I don't deny that what these officers did was wrong, these women entered into these relationships of their own free will and thus must have either discussed starting a family with each of these officers or used covert methods of their own to get pregnant, didn't they?
If neither, the officers ought to be made to pay out of their own wages/pension pots/perosnal insurance for not taking precautions of their own, not leaving the taxpayer to foot the bill yet again.
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That's an eye-watering sum. Whilst I don't deny that what these officers did was wrong, these women entered into these relationships of their own free will and thus must have either discussed starting a family with each of these officers or used covert methods of their own to get pregnant, didn't they?
If neither, the officers ought to be made to pay out of their own wages/pension pots/perosnal insurance for not taking precautions of their own, not leaving the taxpayer to foot the bill yet again.
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Chili...people have illegitimate babies all the time, and they aren't in any way unusual these days. What was wrong about this case is that an undercover Plod made a woman pregnant, in the course of an ongoing investigation. The relationship was entirely related to the investigation, and it is highly unlikely that this couple would have got together without the duplicity needed by the Met.
The investigation could have been done without going this far, and there is no evidence whatsoever that the woman used "covert methods" to deliberately get pregnant. After all, this pay-out is just a paternity payment, albeit many years too late. The Met has finally acknowledged its duplicity and is doing the decent thing, although they had to be dragged kicking and screaming to this position.
The investigation could have been done without going this far, and there is no evidence whatsoever that the woman used "covert methods" to deliberately get pregnant. After all, this pay-out is just a paternity payment, albeit many years too late. The Met has finally acknowledged its duplicity and is doing the decent thing, although they had to be dragged kicking and screaming to this position.
Chili...people have illegitimate babies all the time, and they aren't in any way unusual these days. What was wrong about this case is that an undercover Plod made a woman pregnant.
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I take it you mean TWO consenting adults had consensual sex and made the conscious decision to start a family. Or did one dupe the other?
If so, who duped who? Did the officer fail to take precautions? Or did the female assure him that she was using contraception when in reality she wasn't? Both are culpable IMHO so to say he 'made her pregnant' may be incorrect. She may have hoodwinked him into fathering a child.
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I take it you mean TWO consenting adults had consensual sex and made the conscious decision to start a family. Or did one dupe the other?
If so, who duped who? Did the officer fail to take precautions? Or did the female assure him that she was using contraception when in reality she wasn't? Both are culpable IMHO so to say he 'made her pregnant' may be incorrect. She may have hoodwinked him into fathering a child.
Chili...it might have been as you posit but there is no indication that it is so. What is undeniable is that the Policeman, following orderes, duped this lady, during a covert operation. The pregnancy was probably a mistake on both sides but the Met now view the situation as wrong. Quote from the BBC link ::
"Scotland Yard says it "unreservedly apologises for any pain and suffering".
Seems pretty clear to me that the Met now accepts its part in the affair.
Whether the pregnancy was a mistake or not is outside the writ of this case.
"Scotland Yard says it "unreservedly apologises for any pain and suffering".
Seems pretty clear to me that the Met now accepts its part in the affair.
Whether the pregnancy was a mistake or not is outside the writ of this case.
Chilldo
sorry one of them wasnt consenting by reason of deceit
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McFluff // I wonder hhow the kids are feeling //
alot richer but it IS an eye watering 25 y later....
apparently he was married and had children - it is a jaw dropping situation which has gone on for far too long
sorry one of them wasnt consenting by reason of deceit
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McFluff // I wonder hhow the kids are feeling //
alot richer but it IS an eye watering 25 y later....
apparently he was married and had children - it is a jaw dropping situation which has gone on for far too long
It seems to me that the Met would have asked them to fit in. Not specifically get into a sexual relationship. As such I'm unsure what proportion of responsibility could then be placed with the Met rather than the individual. In any event any award should be comparable to that awarded when a non-Met related relationship breaks up, as the situation for the deserted partner is identical.
Difficult one this, if the officers had refused to enter into a relationship with the women it would have looked suspicious. Then once it had started the women would have expected a sexual relationship. If they had been found out they stood a good chance of being murdered. So they had to do everything to' fit in'.
Yet again we find 'The Met' was not much better than the criminals they were supposed to be trying to catch.
Yet again we find 'The Met' was not much better than the criminals they were supposed to be trying to catch.
^^ Thinking more about this, as the men were 'undercover' they had a false identity. So if the women had applied for maintenance via the CSA they would have been told that the person does not exist.
The women must have assumed that their lovers were 'real people' who could if it came to the worst at least be traced and ordered to pay for their children. That could not happen in this case.
The women must have assumed that their lovers were 'real people' who could if it came to the worst at least be traced and ordered to pay for their children. That could not happen in this case.
