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The Dickens Dossier Has Disappeared Apparently
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Well, NSPCC chief executive Peter Wanless has pulled out all the filing cabinet and all the cupboards but he still hasn't been able to find this important dossier. This is in despite of the dossier being seen by plenty of people, including lots of high-ranking civil servants.
Perhaps he wasn't looking in the right place. Maybe he should have looked in the MI5 building instead ?
Well, NSPCC chief executive Peter Wanless has pulled out all the filing cabinet and all the cupboards but he still hasn't been able to find this important dossier. This is in despite of the dossier being seen by plenty of people, including lots of high-ranking civil servants.
Perhaps he wasn't looking in the right place. Maybe he should have looked in the MI5 building instead ?
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The dossier is thought to be locked away in the Bodleian Library.
The dossier is thought to be locked away in the Bodleian Library.
When a politician was being considered for advancement and a place in The Cabinet you'd think the security services would look into their background to make sure there was nothing there that might make them the target for blackmail.
In some cases it seems that the security people weren't as diligent as they might have been or they did find stuff and the people making the appointments saw it and then swept it under the carpet.
In some cases it seems that the security people weren't as diligent as they might have been or they did find stuff and the people making the appointments saw it and then swept it under the carpet.
Unfortunately all too familiar a story.
I still think we are best placed to press our efforts on the current though. We need to protect those still being abused as we write, more than dig into the past. If those from the past are alive and still active then we will get them that way. Once we are confident we have pretty much stopped today's abusers then is the time to spend cash on the past.
I still think we are best placed to press our efforts on the current though. We need to protect those still being abused as we write, more than dig into the past. If those from the past are alive and still active then we will get them that way. Once we are confident we have pretty much stopped today's abusers then is the time to spend cash on the past.
Sandy...actually, if you read Danczuk's book, he makes it clear that the reason Cyril Smith was never promoted to the Privy Council was primarily because investigations made by MI5 ruled him out as not suitable to advise the Queen !
After all, its not as if the Queen has never been surrounded by other minor queens is it ?
After all, its not as if the Queen has never been surrounded by other minor queens is it ?
YMB...we ignore the past at our peril. If people were protected by the security forces, and its looks ever likely that they were, then that is a very serious situation and it can't be ignored. George Santayana once said
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"
Any investigation into current child abuse will inevitably rake up historical information, so it would be impossible to separate the two. This new Enquiry needs to press on regardless. It was easy for dark forces to operate in the past but in this post-internet age, any attempt to interfere with just process will a lot more difficult to get away with. But we have seen the current interference at work already, with two Enquiry Chairs having to resign. The Enquiry is beginning to look like it has been set up to fail.
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"
Any investigation into current child abuse will inevitably rake up historical information, so it would be impossible to separate the two. This new Enquiry needs to press on regardless. It was easy for dark forces to operate in the past but in this post-internet age, any attempt to interfere with just process will a lot more difficult to get away with. But we have seen the current interference at work already, with two Enquiry Chairs having to resign. The Enquiry is beginning to look like it has been set up to fail.
Re Leon Brittan
"Paedophile dossier
Main article: Westminster paedophile dossier
In 1984, in his capacity as Home Secretary, Brittan was handed a 40-page dossier by Geoffrey Dickens MP that detailed alleged paedophile activity in the 1980s at Westminster.[21] The whereabouts of the dossier is currently unknown, along with other files on organised child abuse previously held by the Home Office.[21] Brittan denied any knowledge of the incident in an e-mail to a Channel 4 News reporter in 2013,[22] and later replied that he had no recollection of the matter to a query from The Independent newspaper.[23] Brittan later declared in 2014 that Dickens had met him at the Home Office and that he had written to Dickens on 20 March 1984, explaining what had been done in relation to the files.[22]
In October 2014, a Labour MP used parliamentary privilege to refer to claims that Brittan had himself been linked to child abuse. In a debate on the 1984 miners' strike, Jim Hood MP was reported to have said: "By the way, the current exposé of Sir Leon Brittan [sic], the then Home Secretary, with accusations of improper conduct with children will not come as a surprise to striking miners of 1984".
"Paedophile dossier
Main article: Westminster paedophile dossier
In 1984, in his capacity as Home Secretary, Brittan was handed a 40-page dossier by Geoffrey Dickens MP that detailed alleged paedophile activity in the 1980s at Westminster.[21] The whereabouts of the dossier is currently unknown, along with other files on organised child abuse previously held by the Home Office.[21] Brittan denied any knowledge of the incident in an e-mail to a Channel 4 News reporter in 2013,[22] and later replied that he had no recollection of the matter to a query from The Independent newspaper.[23] Brittan later declared in 2014 that Dickens had met him at the Home Office and that he had written to Dickens on 20 March 1984, explaining what had been done in relation to the files.[22]
In October 2014, a Labour MP used parliamentary privilege to refer to claims that Brittan had himself been linked to child abuse. In a debate on the 1984 miners' strike, Jim Hood MP was reported to have said: "By the way, the current exposé of Sir Leon Brittan [sic], the then Home Secretary, with accusations of improper conduct with children will not come as a surprise to striking miners of 1984".
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