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the honoring of very well paid politicians, entertainers and famous sports people who love what they do, by bestowing Sir and Dame titles on them?
Most of the people who are a genuine help to Society without monetary rewards are usually ignored their deserved recognition.
Most of the people who are a genuine help to Society without monetary rewards are usually ignored their deserved recognition.
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“The Honours are bestowed as a result of their Charitable Works, their work for Great Britain or their Bravery.” Not quite so, methyl, as a random glance from the top of the 2015 list will confirm: Knighthoods: Theodore Agnew, DL. For services to education (i.e doing what he’s paid to do) David Anthony Andrew Amess, MP. Member of parliament for...
14:24 Sun 01st Mar 2015
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I don't agree with people being honoured for just doing their jobs. Making the likes of Chris Hoy and Bradley Wiggins Sirs is wrong, to me. Yes, they are amazing, inspirational sportsmen, worked hard and sacrificed a lot to get where they did, but their reward for that was their Olympics golds and Wiggins' TdF title. Every British gold medal-winning Olympian became MBE or were upgraded if they already had that honour. Why give another medal for winning a medal? I say this as a big sports fan, by the way.
Making actors sirs and dames even is more laughable.
Making actors sirs and dames even is more laughable.
Tambo - 50k for the POW will only get you an OBE....
As soon as they were set up 1916
Lloyd George and his minion Maundy Gregory were selling them
( Ll.G SOLD the Lord Chancellor's post for £120 000. The fellow who bought it Lord Birkienhead turned out not to be a bad LC )
and yes the people who deserved it didnt get it
My grandfather referred to his own OBE as Other ***' efforts
As soon as they were set up 1916
Lloyd George and his minion Maundy Gregory were selling them
( Ll.G SOLD the Lord Chancellor's post for £120 000. The fellow who bought it Lord Birkienhead turned out not to be a bad LC )
and yes the people who deserved it didnt get it
My grandfather referred to his own OBE as Other ***' efforts
Tambo - 50k for the POW will only get you an OBE....
As soon as they were set up 1916
Lloyd George and his minion Maundy Gregory were selling them
( Ll.G SOLD the Lord Chancellor's post for £120 000. The fellow who bought it Lord Birkienhead turned out not to be a bad LC )
and yes the people who deserved it didnt get it
My grandfather referred to his own OBE as Other ***' efforts
As soon as they were set up 1916
Lloyd George and his minion Maundy Gregory were selling them
( Ll.G SOLD the Lord Chancellor's post for £120 000. The fellow who bought it Lord Birkienhead turned out not to be a bad LC )
and yes the people who deserved it didnt get it
My grandfather referred to his own OBE as Other ***' efforts
“The Honours are bestowed as a result of their Charitable Works, their work for Great Britain or their Bravery.”
Not quite so, methyl, as a random glance from the top of the 2015 list will confirm:
Knighthoods:
Theodore Agnew, DL. For services to education (i.e doing what he’s paid to do)
David Anthony Andrew Amess, MP. Member of parliament for Southend West. For political and public service. (ditto)
Matthew David Baggott, CBE, QPM. Formerly chief constable, Police Service of Northern Ireland. For services to Policing in the United Kingdom. (ditto)
Professor Richard Robert Barnett. Vice-Chancellor University of Ulster. For services to Higher Education and Business in Northern Ireland.(ditto)
Professor Andrew Jonathan Bate, CBE, FBA. Literary Scholar and Provost, Worcester College, University of Oxford. For services to Literary Scholarship and Higher Education. (ditto)
Dr Simon Fraser Campbell, CBE, FRS. Drug Discoverer and Scientific Adviser. For services to Chemistry. (ditto))
Dr Anthony Herbert Everington, OBE. Chair, NHS Tower Hamlets Clinical Commissioning Group. For services to Primary Care.(ditto)
Professor Julian Ernest Michael Le Grand, FBA. Richard Titmuss Professor of Social Policy, London School of Economics. For services to Social Science and public service. (ditto)
John Vincent Hurt, CBE. Actor. For services to Drama. (ditto)
Peter Ashley Kendall. For services to the Agricultural Industry in England and Wales. (ditto)
I could go on, but I think you get the gist. In fact it is not until you get down to this entry:
Dickson ***, CBE. For services to Business and to charity particularly Higher Education. (London)
That any mention of charity is made. Then it’s back to normal business:
David Edward John Ramsden, CBE. Head, Government Economic Service. For services to Economic Policy Making
Professor Nilesh Jayantilal Samani, DL. Professor of Cardiology, University of Leicester. For services to Medicine and Medical Research.
I suppose anybody working for a public body (as most of the above appear to do) could be seen to be working for “Great Britain”. But it could equally be argued that so is everybody else.
The honours system is an antiquated out-of-date system which doles out gongs to recipients as a matter of course. Senior Civil servants from each division of public services make their nominations secure in the knowledge that one day it will be “Buggin’s Turn” to get their bit of silver. A way needs to be devised to bestow genuine honours on those who have been genuinely generous with their time and skills and not on those who are simply doing their (usually well paid) jobs.
Not quite so, methyl, as a random glance from the top of the 2015 list will confirm:
Knighthoods:
Theodore Agnew, DL. For services to education (i.e doing what he’s paid to do)
David Anthony Andrew Amess, MP. Member of parliament for Southend West. For political and public service. (ditto)
Matthew David Baggott, CBE, QPM. Formerly chief constable, Police Service of Northern Ireland. For services to Policing in the United Kingdom. (ditto)
Professor Richard Robert Barnett. Vice-Chancellor University of Ulster. For services to Higher Education and Business in Northern Ireland.(ditto)
Professor Andrew Jonathan Bate, CBE, FBA. Literary Scholar and Provost, Worcester College, University of Oxford. For services to Literary Scholarship and Higher Education. (ditto)
Dr Simon Fraser Campbell, CBE, FRS. Drug Discoverer and Scientific Adviser. For services to Chemistry. (ditto))
Dr Anthony Herbert Everington, OBE. Chair, NHS Tower Hamlets Clinical Commissioning Group. For services to Primary Care.(ditto)
Professor Julian Ernest Michael Le Grand, FBA. Richard Titmuss Professor of Social Policy, London School of Economics. For services to Social Science and public service. (ditto)
John Vincent Hurt, CBE. Actor. For services to Drama. (ditto)
Peter Ashley Kendall. For services to the Agricultural Industry in England and Wales. (ditto)
I could go on, but I think you get the gist. In fact it is not until you get down to this entry:
Dickson ***, CBE. For services to Business and to charity particularly Higher Education. (London)
That any mention of charity is made. Then it’s back to normal business:
David Edward John Ramsden, CBE. Head, Government Economic Service. For services to Economic Policy Making
Professor Nilesh Jayantilal Samani, DL. Professor of Cardiology, University of Leicester. For services to Medicine and Medical Research.
I suppose anybody working for a public body (as most of the above appear to do) could be seen to be working for “Great Britain”. But it could equally be argued that so is everybody else.
The honours system is an antiquated out-of-date system which doles out gongs to recipients as a matter of course. Senior Civil servants from each division of public services make their nominations secure in the knowledge that one day it will be “Buggin’s Turn” to get their bit of silver. A way needs to be devised to bestow genuine honours on those who have been genuinely generous with their time and skills and not on those who are simply doing their (usually well paid) jobs.
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