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Why Is This Woman Free So Soon, As Well As Being In Charge Of Her Only Surviving Child.
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Judging by the bleeding heart comments from most of the Daily Mail readers , I don't suppose I can't expect any different from ABers on here especially from the female ones.
i wonder if the response would have been the same had it been her husband that took the lives of those three small mites?
Or even if a husband ended the life of his much loved terminally ill wife?
Judging by the bleeding heart comments from most of the Daily Mail readers , I don't suppose I can't expect any different from ABers on here especially from the female ones.
i wonder if the response would have been the same had it been her husband that took the lives of those three small mites?
Or even if a husband ended the life of his much loved terminally ill wife?
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naval
/// Once to corbyloon and once to myself I fact your suggestion to me suggested that I should stick to navals ///
Since you have only outlined the statement I put to you, then I can only address that one, you put:
/// That's twice today you have castigated someone who in your mind is not experienced enough to post on you threads. May I ask what you consider experience ///
I didn't say you wasn't experience enough to post on 'MY' threads perhaps only inexperienced in posting in the 'NEWS SECTION' which after all is a fact.
/// Once to corbyloon and once to myself I fact your suggestion to me suggested that I should stick to navals ///
Since you have only outlined the statement I put to you, then I can only address that one, you put:
/// That's twice today you have castigated someone who in your mind is not experienced enough to post on you threads. May I ask what you consider experience ///
I didn't say you wasn't experience enough to post on 'MY' threads perhaps only inexperienced in posting in the 'NEWS SECTION' which after all is a fact.
Corby - did you know that Pavlov actually had loads of dogs? http://
AOG - this woman killed her children for many reasons. She is no longer in the same situation nor the same mental torment. I wish her well and, personally, the burden of knowing what she has done will be the harshest sentence that she could ever serve. But you know that :-)
AOG - this woman killed her children for many reasons. She is no longer in the same situation nor the same mental torment. I wish her well and, personally, the burden of knowing what she has done will be the harshest sentence that she could ever serve. But you know that :-)
THECORBYLOON
/// You have answered almost three times as many questions as I have but you have only six more "best answers," does that prove anything? ///
Mmmm? that is a tough one, but let me have a go.
Could it be that I have got six more best answers than you?
Or, Could it be that I mostly post on the News Section, so my readers are only from a limited readership?
I never count them because I don't take that much interest in boarding the 'Glory Boat' as others do perhaps, in fact I never bother to check how many medals I've acquired, perhaps you would care to check for me? Not as if I am at all interested you understand.
/// You have answered almost three times as many questions as I have but you have only six more "best answers," does that prove anything? ///
Mmmm? that is a tough one, but let me have a go.
Could it be that I have got six more best answers than you?
Or, Could it be that I mostly post on the News Section, so my readers are only from a limited readership?
I never count them because I don't take that much interest in boarding the 'Glory Boat' as others do perhaps, in fact I never bother to check how many medals I've acquired, perhaps you would care to check for me? Not as if I am at all interested you understand.
/// Perhaps I am not reacting like Pavlov's dogs when I read or hear certain words or phrases in the media or when I'm out and about and I don't feel the need to ask questions with the frequency of certain folk. ///
Then why the hell have you chose to come on a question and answer site, perhaps just to sit on the fence making criticisms of others, perhaps that is what get your rocks off?
How very sad.
Then why the hell have you chose to come on a question and answer site, perhaps just to sit on the fence making criticisms of others, perhaps that is what get your rocks off?
How very sad.
AOG
You wrote:
"Judging by the bleeding heart comments from most of the Daily Mail readers , I don't suppose I can't expect any different from ABers on here especially from the female ones."
May I suggest that women have a wide range of opinions about the law, child safety and family matters - as diverse as men.
When you wrote what you did, it comes across as insulting and dismissive to women. I assume you didn't mean to be crass, but think about it this way - if you were discussing the same subject with a mixed group of friends, would you have used that phrasing?
But back to your question - I was surprised at her early release and the resumption of her family life, but I defer to the experts and hope to God they've got it right.
You wrote:
"Judging by the bleeding heart comments from most of the Daily Mail readers , I don't suppose I can't expect any different from ABers on here especially from the female ones."
May I suggest that women have a wide range of opinions about the law, child safety and family matters - as diverse as men.
When you wrote what you did, it comes across as insulting and dismissive to women. I assume you didn't mean to be crass, but think about it this way - if you were discussing the same subject with a mixed group of friends, would you have used that phrasing?
But back to your question - I was surprised at her early release and the resumption of her family life, but I defer to the experts and hope to God they've got it right.
@AOG
Well, that's a miraculous recovery! That's right up there with Ernest Saunders
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Perhaps the value of her house *is* significant and the question you should be asking is not "what if it had been the father" but "what if she'd been some poor woman, who lived on a council estate"?
Rule of thumb with such conditions is that, if retailers and tradespersons can still make money out of you, you're just "eccentric". Exact same mental condition and symptoms but skint, then you're mad and in the bin you go. (Well, CITC, these days, I suppose).
Fortunately for many individuals, the last lot of people who euthanised the disabled ended up losing the war.
Lastly, what about the deterrance factor? Forgotten now?
Well, that's a miraculous recovery! That's right up there with Ernest Saunders
http://
Perhaps the value of her house *is* significant and the question you should be asking is not "what if it had been the father" but "what if she'd been some poor woman, who lived on a council estate"?
Rule of thumb with such conditions is that, if retailers and tradespersons can still make money out of you, you're just "eccentric". Exact same mental condition and symptoms but skint, then you're mad and in the bin you go. (Well, CITC, these days, I suppose).
Fortunately for many individuals, the last lot of people who euthanised the disabled ended up losing the war.
Lastly, what about the deterrance factor? Forgotten now?
sp1814
/// When you wrote what you did, it comes across as insulting and dismissive to women. I assume you didn't mean to be crass, but think about it this way - if you were discussing the same subject with a mixed group of friends, would you have used that phrasing? ///
That is the difference between the written word and the spoken word. Had I had been discussing the same subject with a mixed group of friends I would have most likely said similar, but by my facial expression I am sure that the females amongst my friends would have taken what I said in the way that I said it, and after making ducking gestures, we would have all had a laugh, and the usual male v female opinions would have been exchanged.
/// When you wrote what you did, it comes across as insulting and dismissive to women. I assume you didn't mean to be crass, but think about it this way - if you were discussing the same subject with a mixed group of friends, would you have used that phrasing? ///
That is the difference between the written word and the spoken word. Had I had been discussing the same subject with a mixed group of friends I would have most likely said similar, but by my facial expression I am sure that the females amongst my friends would have taken what I said in the way that I said it, and after making ducking gestures, we would have all had a laugh, and the usual male v female opinions would have been exchanged.
// Judging by the bleeding heart comments from most of the Daily Mail readers , ..... I can't expect any different from ABers on here especially from the female ones. //
ABer = Daily Mail reader
a conversion as remarkable as the one that occurred on the rd to Damascus
somehow I dont think Andy H ( hi Andy !) or Mikey ( hi Mikey ! ) are any where near typical DM readers - but ya never know what goes on behind closed doors !
ABer = Daily Mail reader
a conversion as remarkable as the one that occurred on the rd to Damascus
somehow I dont think Andy H ( hi Andy !) or Mikey ( hi Mikey ! ) are any where near typical DM readers - but ya never know what goes on behind closed doors !
// lol,lol,lol. Be still, my aching sides.//
be still your clacking tongue !
Everyone knows that if you attend a court hearing it is different to account in the newspapers. As for experts - both sides can call experts who advise the court and not the parties
and whoever pointed it out - the Guiness case screwed up forensic ( psych ) testimony big time and for a long time
be still your clacking tongue !
Everyone knows that if you attend a court hearing it is different to account in the newspapers. As for experts - both sides can call experts who advise the court and not the parties
and whoever pointed it out - the Guiness case screwed up forensic ( psych ) testimony big time and for a long time
From about 1840 ( M'Naughton case and M rules ) we have recognised that mad people are not responsible for the actions.... ergo
( QV didnt like it and at one point exclaimed 'but I was the one being shot at'
The Yorkshire Ripper apparently spoke to warders about pretending to be mad and lo and behold 20 y later he is hopelessly insane in Broadmoor with no prospect of release. Pleading insanity is a diuble edged sword
( QV didnt like it and at one point exclaimed 'but I was the one being shot at'
The Yorkshire Ripper apparently spoke to warders about pretending to be mad and lo and behold 20 y later he is hopelessly insane in Broadmoor with no prospect of release. Pleading insanity is a diuble edged sword
@Peter_Pedant
To a certain extent I view all murders as acts of madness but, of course, we can't keep expanding Broadmoor and places like it. Presumably it all comes down to the expert's opinion of whether the person had any morsel of self-control remaining --at the time of the act--.
Going mad after the event but before trial might actually happen but how could anyone tell the difference?
I suppose it is too late to discuss why she didn't request help with looking after her dependent children? There is such a thing as respite care - 2 weeks' "holiday" from care work once or twice a year.
If that service is means tested and she failed that test then attempting to protect her savings pot (private care thousands per week?) looks rather like a motive, doesn't it?
wrt Guiness thing, I do need to check my facts. It was probably an off-the-cuff remark by Hislop, about Saunders last being seen in rude health, sunning himself on a yacht/beach. Just his way of saying there has still been no second-bite legal action against him.
To a certain extent I view all murders as acts of madness but, of course, we can't keep expanding Broadmoor and places like it. Presumably it all comes down to the expert's opinion of whether the person had any morsel of self-control remaining --at the time of the act--.
Going mad after the event but before trial might actually happen but how could anyone tell the difference?
I suppose it is too late to discuss why she didn't request help with looking after her dependent children? There is such a thing as respite care - 2 weeks' "holiday" from care work once or twice a year.
If that service is means tested and she failed that test then attempting to protect her savings pot (private care thousands per week?) looks rather like a motive, doesn't it?
wrt Guiness thing, I do need to check my facts. It was probably an off-the-cuff remark by Hislop, about Saunders last being seen in rude health, sunning himself on a yacht/beach. Just his way of saying there has still been no second-bite legal action against him.
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