So What Do The *** Think Of This?

[youngmafbog]

Terror 'apologists' must share blame - Hammond

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31809453

[Hypognosis]

M&Ms?


Heck, what do I know? I even had to look up SJW
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SJW

Where do I go to buy fogey trousers?

[sp1814]

Okay...lets think laterally...it couldn't have been ROP (the somewhat tired sobriquet used by those who still think that spelling 'Blair' as 'Bliar', and putting "...NOT" at the end of a sentences is funny). The reason it could not have been ROP is because it's not on AB's list of banned words and phrases.

What could it be???

[Svejk]

Nothing funny about The Religion of Peace.
Nothing funny about saying it either. In case you haven't noticed, it's trotted out by all the mainstream politicians (usually after another example of gut-churning savagery from your favourite death-cult)

[Gromit]

Sp,

Is not Friends of Jhiadist (***) as a previous poster said?

[ToraToraTora]

ROP is on the list SOP, see

[ToraToraTora]

sorry, make that *** then

[jno]

sounds like Hammond is trying to shift the blame from the intelligence people who waved Jihadi John on through, onto... airlines, people who don't buy into the war on terror, anyone but him.

[youngmafbog]

Sympathizers of Jihad (well the abbreviation of) ie the apologists under discussion

[ToraToraTora]

well the problem is jno, you cannot arrest someone for going abroad. You'd be the first one spitting out your organic peace porridge if that happenned.

[Hypognosis]

"Cage, an advocacy group for those "impacted by the War on Terror", has said MI5 played a role in the radicalisation of the Kuwait-born Briton."

All they did was approach him and ask him to become a mole inside (not sure if ISIS existed at the time).

It is hard to make comparisons because we do not know what the non-theist types MI5 approach go on to do with their lives after turning the offer down.

The point I am trying, awkwardly, to make is that approaches by the security services do not appear to radicalise individuals who don't live their lives by some rules in a set of books, so CAGE blaming it on MI5 is specious, imho.


btw, I can't work out if some of you are manually asterisking, for a laugh, or not.
Testing: ROP (rl'jano V'peece)

[Hypognosis]

"Its research director Asim Qureshi told the BBC "harassment" by intelligence officers did not make Emwazi into a killer, but he said it was a factor in making him feel he "didn't belong in the UK anymore"."

Some expansion on "harrassment" is surely needed. Sounds more like inducement to a backlash than attempted recruitment to our side. Details?


Qureshi was interviewed on TV, last week and evaded straight answers to one specific question like a seasoned politician.



(Full interview: 16 of your minutes)

[jno]

that's the point, TTT: Hammond's saying airlines should be fined for flying bad people. Why is it the job of airlines to do the security services' work for them? If they've got a case against someone, arrest them before they get to the airport.

[Svejk]

^Watched that. He wasn't expecting a hard time from his inBBC mates. Brillo will be getting the sack, lol.

[Gromit]

A clear case of distraction by Hammond.

Jhiadi John was susppose to be on a watch list yet he was able fly out of the country. It is ludicrous to blame the airline. Is the taxi driver who took him to the airport also going to get some blame?

CAGE is a tiny organisation with a handful of staff. They look like a small band of nutters. To credit them for encouraging jhiadists is again total misdirection.

Hammond's whole bluster was just a blame game. He doesn't want to admit we could have stopped Jhiadi John many times but didn't, so it is everybody elses fault.