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Good morning PP,thanks for that,the locum thing seems the most likely reason his name was linked to my case. Interesting item re Cocklecarrot in Private Eye (very amusing cover on the current issue) Trust cases are Barmaids forte then are they,I did look at Stack v Dowden,very complex area I thought and libel's probably even worse I think. Longmore,McFarlane and Gloster are the three L.J.s hearing the 'oral' bit of this case,seems like it's going to be just me putting it to them,daunting. I've got another post up just before this one without an answer as yet and thanks again for your help.