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Would Snp Mps Elected On Thursday Be Less Legitimate Than An Others?
There's talk that a Labour government supported by them wouldn't be acceptable to the Tories or their press baron supporters.
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naomi..."I said that given the majority of the electorate will not have the opportunity to elect or reject them"
Doesn't this apply to Plaid Cymru, or any of Parties operating in Northern Ireland ? Why are their votes and MP's not questionable but the SNP are ?
Unless things have changed since I last looked at the map, Scotland is part of the UK and whether it chooses to send Labour, LibDem or SNP MP's to Westminster, surely that is the concern of the Scottish voters ? If we end with a Tory Government on Friday morning, all those Parties will be part of the Opposition, and they can all play their part in opposing the Tories plans.
Its called democracy...get used to it !
Who knows...they might even send some Tory MP's down south...now, that really would be unusual !
Doesn't this apply to Plaid Cymru, or any of Parties operating in Northern Ireland ? Why are their votes and MP's not questionable but the SNP are ?
Unless things have changed since I last looked at the map, Scotland is part of the UK and whether it chooses to send Labour, LibDem or SNP MP's to Westminster, surely that is the concern of the Scottish voters ? If we end with a Tory Government on Friday morning, all those Parties will be part of the Opposition, and they can all play their part in opposing the Tories plans.
Its called democracy...get used to it !
Who knows...they might even send some Tory MP's down south...now, that really would be unusual !
Why would a smallish number of SNP MPs joining forces with Labour (they've categorically ruled out alliance with Conservatives) be any less legitimate than the Lib Dems forming the coalition with Cameron & Co?
I can understand concerns south of the border, but unlike their counterparts in NI, they will swear allegiance to the Crown and sit in Parliament, and legislate on the basis of what is good for the whole UK.
Granted, they may squeeze some concessions beneficial only to Scotland, but all parties fight their own corners for the best deal for their supporters.
Their leader won't have a seat at Westminster, but has declared that they will seek a fair deal and removal of austerity measures for all UK residents.
I can understand concerns south of the border, but unlike their counterparts in NI, they will swear allegiance to the Crown and sit in Parliament, and legislate on the basis of what is good for the whole UK.
Granted, they may squeeze some concessions beneficial only to Scotland, but all parties fight their own corners for the best deal for their supporters.
Their leader won't have a seat at Westminster, but has declared that they will seek a fair deal and removal of austerity measures for all UK residents.
The SNP can't make Scotland independent, no matter if they win every seat in Scotland, mores the pity. Only the Scottish people can do that by referendum.
What they can do though is hold the UK parliament to ransom, to extract greater amounts of dosh and privelege for Scotland at the expense of everyone else. That's why they're so popular in Scotland - not because the Scots want independence.
What they can do though is hold the UK parliament to ransom, to extract greater amounts of dosh and privelege for Scotland at the expense of everyone else. That's why they're so popular in Scotland - not because the Scots want independence.
@Ludwig
If the SNP succeed in extracting yet more benefit from the rest of the UK, would that not mean they would lose more, should they subsequently vote for independence?
It is beholden of the SNP to demonstrate that Scotland can pay its own way, first - and not by sophistry and rhetoric. That includes the economic turnover losses resulting from closing Faslane and other UK defence bases. The referendum successfully latched on to the business of how deeply in one another's pockets Scotland and the UK really were but I think the time ran out before much detail had reached public consciousness.
I am sure that the rest will be brought to light by each and every attempt to lever further concessions out of the next government. The journos will have a field day, I'm sure.
If the SNP succeed in extracting yet more benefit from the rest of the UK, would that not mean they would lose more, should they subsequently vote for independence?
It is beholden of the SNP to demonstrate that Scotland can pay its own way, first - and not by sophistry and rhetoric. That includes the economic turnover losses resulting from closing Faslane and other UK defence bases. The referendum successfully latched on to the business of how deeply in one another's pockets Scotland and the UK really were but I think the time ran out before much detail had reached public consciousness.
I am sure that the rest will be brought to light by each and every attempt to lever further concessions out of the next government. The journos will have a field day, I'm sure.
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