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Friend sent me this. I found it interesting, but not sure many will agree.
Here's something interesting to ponder about : For those who believe in God and for those who don't believe in HIM. It stimulates our lateral thinking :
This lovely parable is from "Your Sacred Self" by Dr. Wayne Dyer.
In a mother’s womb were two babies. One asked the other: “Do you believe in life after delivery?”The other replied, “Why, of course. There has to be something after delivery. Maybe we are here to prepare ourselves for what we will be later.”
“Nonsense” said the first. “There is no life after delivery. What kind of life would that be?”
The second said, “I don’t know, but there will be more light than here. Maybe we will walk with our legs and eat from our mouths. Maybe we will have other senses that we can’t understand now.”
The first replied, “That is absurd. Walking is impossible. And eating with our mouths? Ridiculous! The umbilical cord supplies nutrition and everything we need. But the umbilical cord is so short. Life after delivery is to be logically excluded.”
The second insisted, “Well I think there is something and maybe it’s different than it is here. Maybe we won’t need this physical cord any more.”
The first replied, “Nonsense. And moreover if there is life, then why has no one ever come back from there? Delivery is the end of life, and in the after-delivery there is nothing but darkness and silence and oblivion. It takes us nowhere.”
“Well, I don’t know,” said the second, “but certainly we will meet Mother and she will take care of us.”
The first replied “Mother? You actually believe in Mother? That’s laughable. If Mother exists then where is She now?”
The second said, “She is all around us. We are surrounded by her. We are of Her. It is in Her that we live. Without Her this world would not and could not exist.”
Said the first: “Well I don’t see Her, so it is only logical that She doesn’t exist.”
To which the second replied, “Sometimes, when you’re in silence and you focus and you really listen, you can perceive Her presence, and you can hear Her loving voice, calling down from above.”
Isn't this something similar to what we perceive in our lives as well ?? Just think about it.
Here's something interesting to ponder about : For those who believe in God and for those who don't believe in HIM. It stimulates our lateral thinking :
This lovely parable is from "Your Sacred Self" by Dr. Wayne Dyer.
In a mother’s womb were two babies. One asked the other: “Do you believe in life after delivery?”The other replied, “Why, of course. There has to be something after delivery. Maybe we are here to prepare ourselves for what we will be later.”
“Nonsense” said the first. “There is no life after delivery. What kind of life would that be?”
The second said, “I don’t know, but there will be more light than here. Maybe we will walk with our legs and eat from our mouths. Maybe we will have other senses that we can’t understand now.”
The first replied, “That is absurd. Walking is impossible. And eating with our mouths? Ridiculous! The umbilical cord supplies nutrition and everything we need. But the umbilical cord is so short. Life after delivery is to be logically excluded.”
The second insisted, “Well I think there is something and maybe it’s different than it is here. Maybe we won’t need this physical cord any more.”
The first replied, “Nonsense. And moreover if there is life, then why has no one ever come back from there? Delivery is the end of life, and in the after-delivery there is nothing but darkness and silence and oblivion. It takes us nowhere.”
“Well, I don’t know,” said the second, “but certainly we will meet Mother and she will take care of us.”
The first replied “Mother? You actually believe in Mother? That’s laughable. If Mother exists then where is She now?”
The second said, “She is all around us. We are surrounded by her. We are of Her. It is in Her that we live. Without Her this world would not and could not exist.”
Said the first: “Well I don’t see Her, so it is only logical that She doesn’t exist.”
To which the second replied, “Sometimes, when you’re in silence and you focus and you really listen, you can perceive Her presence, and you can hear Her loving voice, calling down from above.”
Isn't this something similar to what we perceive in our lives as well ?? Just think about it.
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Hypognosis... Ezekiel was aprphet during the Babylonian exile of the Jews from their homeland. Interestingly he wrote at about the same time and same place as Daniel and Jeremiah... ca. 592 or so BC.
The key passage in Ezekiel is (in my estimation): "...21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:
22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.
23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.
This prophecy technique is seen often in the Old Covenant wherein a prophecy and apply to both the immediate future as well as a more distant happening. At no time was Israel taken captive by nations we know to day as Britain and /or France... although both were part of the Old Roman Empire, which did deport numerous Jews at various times.
Yeshua's pronouncements in Matthew 24 pply to yet to come event generally reffered to as the Rapture of the Church... the taking up of both dead beleivers as well as those who are alive at the time. Paul describes it vividly in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17... While the word "rapture" doesn't appear in Scripture, it is taken from the Latin rapare which does appear in Latin basedNew Covenant sections and means to "snatch away".
Actually, a number of scholars see Great Briatin as represented in Scripture, primarily Daniel Chapter 7. I don't know enough bout that to comment.
"How many thousands of dead since 1948?
Why couldn't we have given them a homeland thousands of miles away from any Arab land posessions?"
The key passage in Ezekiel is (in my estimation): "...21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:
22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.
23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.
This prophecy technique is seen often in the Old Covenant wherein a prophecy and apply to both the immediate future as well as a more distant happening. At no time was Israel taken captive by nations we know to day as Britain and /or France... although both were part of the Old Roman Empire, which did deport numerous Jews at various times.
Yeshua's pronouncements in Matthew 24 pply to yet to come event generally reffered to as the Rapture of the Church... the taking up of both dead beleivers as well as those who are alive at the time. Paul describes it vividly in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17... While the word "rapture" doesn't appear in Scripture, it is taken from the Latin rapare which does appear in Latin basedNew Covenant sections and means to "snatch away".
Actually, a number of scholars see Great Briatin as represented in Scripture, primarily Daniel Chapter 7. I don't know enough bout that to comment.
"How many thousands of dead since 1948?
Why couldn't we have given them a homeland thousands of miles away from any Arab land posessions?"
Contd.:
Don't know about dead since 1948 except to say Stalin killed 55 million, Pol Pot an other 40 or 50 million and on and on. Fact is those killed over the wars surrounding Israel since 1948 have been vastly in the minority. However, this ties in with you last quoted question...You would have to ask your own government and the Balfour Commission in particular.
The history is interesting though and completes the Ezekiel "Dry bones" prophecy through a series of very unlikely events beginning at or near the end of WW1: "During WW1, a British scientist, Dr. Chaim Weitzmann, developed a synthetic acetone and showed how it could be used to create a new kind of smokeless gun powder called "cordite". This helped the British significantly shortened the war. In gratitude, the British government offered to grant Weitzmann a "boon". Weitzmann, a Zionist leader, asked for a homeland for his people. The problem was turned over to Lord Arthur Balfour. Balfour saw several advantages for Britain in acceding to Weitzmann's request.
First, he needed the support of the wealthy Jews inside Britain, especially Lord Lionel Rothschild, a wealthy Jew and prominent banker. Secondly, it would be in Britain's interests to have a state friendly to Britain in the eastern Mediterranean region. Thirdly, largely as a result of the growing sympathy for a Jewish state brought on thanks to Darby and the rising tide of evangelical Christianity, there was public support for the concept in Parliament. Lord Balfour then sent his famous letter, known to history as "The Balfour Declaration," that promised a Jewish homeland in Palestine.
His request resulted in the issuance of the Balfour Declaration, which in part said: "His majesty's government view with favor the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object."
England proposed several "2 nation, 1 state" solutions to the "jewish" problem just before the start of WWII, but all were rejected by the Arab countries though all were accepted by Isreali leaders.
Finally, "...The UN Partition Plan of 1947 offered by the UN gave a tiny portion of the land to Israel, the remainder to the Arabs, and declared Jerusalem an open city. This too, was rejected by the Arabs. The first time any partition plan ever offered by anyone was even looked at seriously by the Arab side was in 1968. That was after they had lost the West Bank and city of Jerusalem to Israel following their most recent attempt to wipe the Jewish State off the face of the earth..."
"...The Jews of Europe became the Israelis of Palestine. Tough, disciplined and courageous in the face of overwhelming odds. They fought against British immigration restrictions to sneak themselves into Palestine by any means. They fought against a hostile Muslim population that was being flooded with new Muslim residents from all over the Muslim world. When the British disarmed them and heavily armed the Muslims, they smuggled weapons in with incredible cunning and audacity. They organized freedom fighting cell groups that gave the British more than they could handle.
The British withdrew, and Israel claimed the land of Palestine to be the Jewish homeland on May 14, 1948. They proclaimed a new State and providentially named it Israel. The next day, they were invaded on all sides by the combined might of the Muslim world. Humanly speaking, there is no way to explain how the Israelis defeated the well-trained, heavily armed Muslim army that outnumbered them 10 to 1..." We, of course, know the outcome of that conflict. (Source: historyof Israel.org)
Again, thanks for the interaction... what's the old saying, "Steel sharpens steel"?
Don't know about dead since 1948 except to say Stalin killed 55 million, Pol Pot an other 40 or 50 million and on and on. Fact is those killed over the wars surrounding Israel since 1948 have been vastly in the minority. However, this ties in with you last quoted question...You would have to ask your own government and the Balfour Commission in particular.
The history is interesting though and completes the Ezekiel "Dry bones" prophecy through a series of very unlikely events beginning at or near the end of WW1: "During WW1, a British scientist, Dr. Chaim Weitzmann, developed a synthetic acetone and showed how it could be used to create a new kind of smokeless gun powder called "cordite". This helped the British significantly shortened the war. In gratitude, the British government offered to grant Weitzmann a "boon". Weitzmann, a Zionist leader, asked for a homeland for his people. The problem was turned over to Lord Arthur Balfour. Balfour saw several advantages for Britain in acceding to Weitzmann's request.
First, he needed the support of the wealthy Jews inside Britain, especially Lord Lionel Rothschild, a wealthy Jew and prominent banker. Secondly, it would be in Britain's interests to have a state friendly to Britain in the eastern Mediterranean region. Thirdly, largely as a result of the growing sympathy for a Jewish state brought on thanks to Darby and the rising tide of evangelical Christianity, there was public support for the concept in Parliament. Lord Balfour then sent his famous letter, known to history as "The Balfour Declaration," that promised a Jewish homeland in Palestine.
His request resulted in the issuance of the Balfour Declaration, which in part said: "His majesty's government view with favor the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object."
England proposed several "2 nation, 1 state" solutions to the "jewish" problem just before the start of WWII, but all were rejected by the Arab countries though all were accepted by Isreali leaders.
Finally, "...The UN Partition Plan of 1947 offered by the UN gave a tiny portion of the land to Israel, the remainder to the Arabs, and declared Jerusalem an open city. This too, was rejected by the Arabs. The first time any partition plan ever offered by anyone was even looked at seriously by the Arab side was in 1968. That was after they had lost the West Bank and city of Jerusalem to Israel following their most recent attempt to wipe the Jewish State off the face of the earth..."
"...The Jews of Europe became the Israelis of Palestine. Tough, disciplined and courageous in the face of overwhelming odds. They fought against British immigration restrictions to sneak themselves into Palestine by any means. They fought against a hostile Muslim population that was being flooded with new Muslim residents from all over the Muslim world. When the British disarmed them and heavily armed the Muslims, they smuggled weapons in with incredible cunning and audacity. They organized freedom fighting cell groups that gave the British more than they could handle.
The British withdrew, and Israel claimed the land of Palestine to be the Jewish homeland on May 14, 1948. They proclaimed a new State and providentially named it Israel. The next day, they were invaded on all sides by the combined might of the Muslim world. Humanly speaking, there is no way to explain how the Israelis defeated the well-trained, heavily armed Muslim army that outnumbered them 10 to 1..." We, of course, know the outcome of that conflict. (Source: historyof Israel.org)
Again, thanks for the interaction... what's the old saying, "Steel sharpens steel"?
Clanad, //they have been addressed individually for centuries by men (and women) much more intelligent than I.//
No doubt they have. As for your final question I’ve simply put to you the ‘history’ with no frills attached. However, if you'd like to discuss your perception of the adverse aspects of anyone’s personality let us begin with God’s failings.
Hypognosis, // Why couldn't we have given them a homeland thousands of miles away from any Arab land posessions?//
No other scrap of land would have been acceptable. Israel is the Promised Land – allegedly – so we booted out the people who had been living there for a couple of thousand years at least and gave their land and their homes to the Jews. And the world wonders why the Palestinians are miffed!
No doubt they have. As for your final question I’ve simply put to you the ‘history’ with no frills attached. However, if you'd like to discuss your perception of the adverse aspects of anyone’s personality let us begin with God’s failings.
Hypognosis, // Why couldn't we have given them a homeland thousands of miles away from any Arab land posessions?//
No other scrap of land would have been acceptable. Israel is the Promised Land – allegedly – so we booted out the people who had been living there for a couple of thousand years at least and gave their land and their homes to the Jews. And the world wonders why the Palestinians are miffed!
Arabs once carried the torch of scientific achievement. Look what religious dominance over free-enquiry did for them.
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Theland, //Well Israel,exists against all human odds.//
No it doesn’t. It’s existence is easily explained. No divine blessing necessary. See my post at 08:36 Thu 28th May 2015 here:
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No it doesn’t. It’s existence is easily explained. No divine blessing necessary. See my post at 08:36 Thu 28th May 2015 here:
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