Can Anyone Summon Up Any Sympathy

[Bathsheba]

for this monster?http://www.itv.com/news/central/update/2015-07-14/breaking-daniel-pelkas-mother-has-died-in-prison/

[Gromit]

The Mail headline today says she took her own life.

// Mother jailed for life for brutally torturing and starving her four-year-old son to death is found DEAD in prison after 'taking her own life' //

[EDDIE51]

Panky and gromit read my 'best answer'
A prisoner is found hanged ( the normal method of prison 'suicide') in their cell. It means there has been a break of prison rules. Either the prisoner had to chance to hang himself . Or someone 'got at them'. If a prisoner is found hanged it just gets put down as 'suicide' no investigation unless it is a very well known criminal. OK they may well have hanged themselves it happens a lot, but someone may have put the 'noose' on them, that happens a lot as well! These things often happen when an office who is supposed to be guarding them goes for a break and forgets to lock them in the cell or forgets to remove something like a belt or other item that can be used as a noose. The highest suicide risk prisoners have to wear 'paper' overalls and have cells with cardboard furniture to minimise the risk of suicide. Ian Brady is force fed through a tube to stop him starving himself to death, so as to prolong his suffering as much as possible!

[Gromit]

Eddie,

Reading between the lines, it is more probable she took drugs of her own choice. There was no sign of a struggle, she died during the night. Her final appeal had been turned down in January and it was Daniels birthday.

[andy-hughes]

Eddie51 - //Ian Brady has been begging to be allowed to commit suicide for decades, there is no way they are going to allow him to do it. He is such a high profile prisoner that a suicide by him would mean a huge investigation. They just want to let him suffer for as long as possible. //

It may seem like semantics, but Ian Brady does not wish to commit suicide, he wishes to be allowed to die, which is not the same thing.

Brady has been force-fed for the last fourteen years since he went on hunger strike. He is being kept in a secure mental institution because his sanity is questioned, and he is also believed to be suffering from dementia. Legally, because Brady is not of sound mind, he is force-fed because he is not deemed fit to make decisions affecting his own safety and well-being. Brady in turn contends that this infringes his human rights.

And let's save the cyber-space by taking as read all the outrages about his victims and similar anger and bile - it doesn't help, so let's not, and say we did.

[andy-hughes]

As to the original question, death comes to us all eventually, why would the concept of sympathy apply here?

[retrocop]

ah
The prison authorities can hardly say,"OK Ian.If you have had enough stir you can opt out by committing suicide"
I believe it still is an offence to aid/abet a suicide even if it is no longer an offence to attempt.

[Bathsheba]

andy,...clearly I didn't phrase the question well. I was just intending to bring the breaking news item to the site. I realised that all original posts in here are required to be in the form of a question,...so that was what I used.

Baths.

[EDDIE51]

Gromit in jail prisoners ARE NOT allowed to keep drugs even those prescribed by the prison doctor in their possession. They HAVE to attend the prison medical centre and take the drugs under supervision. They will be issued with one dose at a time and have to take it there and then in front of the doctor or warder. You can't keep even an aspirin in your cell! So if this person's death is described as suicide by drug overdose it is a cover up!

[andy-hughes]

Bathsheba - //andy,...clearly I didn't phrase the question well. I was just intending to bring the breaking news item to the site. I realised that all original posts in here are required to be in the form of a question,...so that was what I used. //

Fair play Baths - no criticism intended xx

[Bathsheba]

@andy...appreciate it ;)

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