I also think it's a pointless meaningless apology. He had nothing to do with the original decision, it's no different to me saying sorry because I actually voted for Blair back then.
Prudie - "I also think it's a pointless meaningless apology. He had nothing to do with the original decision, it's no different to me saying sorry because I actually voted for Blair back then."
I think it is different, because Blair was party leader then, and he will be party leader if he wins the leadership election.
I think apologising for the perceived mistakes of your predecessors is a valid political position - it shows an intention to change and move forward.
Far from being "mealy mouthed words", i believe that, as Corbyn was one of just a few from Labour who voted against the invasion of Iraq, his apology would be quite sincere. Just my opinion, of course.
"I think apologising for the perceived mistakes of your predecessors is a valid political position" - to me that's just a PR tactic and wouldn't fool the majority.
Ken I don't doubt that he personally regrets the Iraq war, I just don't see an apology from him has any purpose, it certainly doesn't make anyone less angry and forgive does it??
Prudie - ""I think apologising for the perceived mistakes of your predecessors is a valid political position" - to me that's just a PR tactic and wouldn't fool the majority.
Ken I don't doubt that he personally regrets the Iraq war, I just don't see an apology from him has any purpose, it certainly doesn't make anyone less angry and forgive does it??"
That was me actually.
I think that it shows a statement of intent for the direction of his party - an effort to acknowledge the errors of the past, and a direction for the future.
It wasn't the Labour Party which started the war or indeed supported it. Corbyn of all people knows perfectly well the difference between the party and the government as it was people like him who constantly conplained that the party was being disregarded by Blair and co. So for him how to offer this o am afraid smacks of opportunism, gesturism, what have you
Andy don't confuse me, my comment to Ken was indeed to Ken as the post under mine referred to his sincerity. the quoted bit is obviously just you.
To think an apology for this shows the direction the party wants to go seems very gullible - which party in their right mind would claim that the Irag war was the direction they'd still like to go in the future?
Prudie - "Andy don't confuse me, my comment to Ken was indeed to Ken as the post under mine referred to his sincerity. the quoted bit is obviously just you."
Apologising to the British public is no bad idea since the circumstances related to lying in parliament and going in against the wishes of a lot of the British public. Apologising to other countries would be an error though. A decision was made to make a bad situation, hopefully better; and one can not go apologising for an action if that is decided upon and apologising for inaction if not. No apology is required for trying to put something right, but there is for fooling parliament and the public.