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Who And How Many Should We Let In?
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Over the weeks much has been discussed regarding the migrant crisis that is hitting Europe.
Economic refugees? migrants seeking a better life? or actual refugees fleeing from war torn lands? have all been banded about.
What I wish to ask those who say "let them in", who and how many we should let in?
If their humanitarian answer is "of course the refugees" then I ask how do we know who are genuine refugees? All those who can prove without a shadow of doubt that they are indeed fleeing war torn lands, then obviously they have argument.
Without this positive assurance we do not really know if in fact we are letting in potential terrorists who could in the future cause us very much harm to us all in this country.
Over the weeks much has been discussed regarding the migrant crisis that is hitting Europe.
Economic refugees? migrants seeking a better life? or actual refugees fleeing from war torn lands? have all been banded about.
What I wish to ask those who say "let them in", who and how many we should let in?
If their humanitarian answer is "of course the refugees" then I ask how do we know who are genuine refugees? All those who can prove without a shadow of doubt that they are indeed fleeing war torn lands, then obviously they have argument.
Without this positive assurance we do not really know if in fact we are letting in potential terrorists who could in the future cause us very much harm to us all in this country.
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I went up to the centre of Birmingham yesterday, taking two young relatives round to see all the owl statues.
I took them in to McDonalds for lunch, and while sitting there I looked round the restaurant and noticed that about two thirds of the people sitting in the place were "non-white" (Chinese, Asian, Black etc).
We have already done enough, taking in people from around the world, and I often feel like a stranger in my own country.
We CANT keep taking more and more people, or soon it will cease to be a country of mainly white people (in certain places it already is).
I took them in to McDonalds for lunch, and while sitting there I looked round the restaurant and noticed that about two thirds of the people sitting in the place were "non-white" (Chinese, Asian, Black etc).
We have already done enough, taking in people from around the world, and I often feel like a stranger in my own country.
We CANT keep taking more and more people, or soon it will cease to be a country of mainly white people (in certain places it already is).
Because of our lax/non existant easytouch border policies these people will just keep on coming here as they have been doing for the past 50 or so years..the vast majority are not true asylum seekers...and they know the chance of getting chucked out are virtually zero...
the more we let in the more will come....
the more we let in the more will come....
If it's the Africans you are talking about then the fact that most of them seem to have drowned trying to get to Europe doesn't seem to have stopped them still coming, so a few extra border restrictions won't help there.
The current crisis on mainland Europe seems to be coming from Syria though. This is the trouble in a far off country of which we know little and care less, despite the fact that it affects us anyway, like it or not, in lots of ways.
The current crisis on mainland Europe seems to be coming from Syria though. This is the trouble in a far off country of which we know little and care less, despite the fact that it affects us anyway, like it or not, in lots of ways.
VHG...your experience in the McDonalds in Brum wasn't typical by any means.
There is a McDonalds in West Cornwall, just outside Hayle, where if you had gone in there instead, you wouldn't have seen a non-white face if you had stayed for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Ditto for the one in Penzance.
My local McDonalds here in Swansea would have been broadly similar, although if you had waited another 2-4 weeks, you might have seen some non-white, but as a city where we have a University and 2 Colleges, it would have been surprising if you hadn't seen some foreigners.
There are parts of Britain that never see a non-white face from one day to another.
Brum is Britain's second biggest city...what did you expect ?
There is a McDonalds in West Cornwall, just outside Hayle, where if you had gone in there instead, you wouldn't have seen a non-white face if you had stayed for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Ditto for the one in Penzance.
My local McDonalds here in Swansea would have been broadly similar, although if you had waited another 2-4 weeks, you might have seen some non-white, but as a city where we have a University and 2 Colleges, it would have been surprising if you hadn't seen some foreigners.
There are parts of Britain that never see a non-white face from one day to another.
Brum is Britain's second biggest city...what did you expect ?
I do not think there is enough thought going into the influx of refugees let into this country, the powers to be are never effected but Villages / Towns / City's that are over crowded, over schooled / the NHS / Local Health Centres, I do feel for them as much as some on here may think I don't, the problem arise from the Governments of the Refugees Departing Country's, it's them that's what needs to be sorting out.
RIP The Birmingham I was born and bred in.RIP London my wife was born and bred in. Same for many City's/ghetto's. Saying that, Genuine families with small children fleeing from possible death, I feel we should temporarily assist, until such a time that they can and will be repatriated. Help them, but don't keep them permanently.
## I took them in to McDonalds for lunch, and while sitting there I looked round the restaurant and noticed that about two thirds of the people sitting in the place were "non-white" (Chinese, Asian, Black etc). ##
A bit the same VHG,
I was showing my elder kids two places where I grew up on Google street map, Stretford & Old Trafford.
I was showing them my house, the pub my dad went in, schools etc, and as we were cyber travelling through the roads and streets, they remarked that 95% of the people caught on the camera were foreign, and plenty in Muslim dress.
One of the big pubs was a Muslim Girls School, the other a Mosque, and the area looked like a *** hole.
Thank God, I moved down South when I was 22yrs old.
A bit the same VHG,
I was showing my elder kids two places where I grew up on Google street map, Stretford & Old Trafford.
I was showing them my house, the pub my dad went in, schools etc, and as we were cyber travelling through the roads and streets, they remarked that 95% of the people caught on the camera were foreign, and plenty in Muslim dress.
One of the big pubs was a Muslim Girls School, the other a Mosque, and the area looked like a *** hole.
Thank God, I moved down South when I was 22yrs old.
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