Tories ve Labour

[Trotbot]

There was an article in the Economist about the differences in the pain inflicted by Tories under Thatcher / Major and Labour under Tone. The Tories hit the people directly (Poll Tax, sky high interest (and associated repositions and utter misery), millions unemployed, little or no job security) and Labour have hit the image of Britain (fat people with bad elocution getting it on and having a nice place to live), ministers married to someone who may (or may not) have done something wrong, rewarding those who are loyal (J Archer need not apply), bad hair days paid for by party members etc etc ad nauseam.

I suppose my question is, isn't wonderful to have so much to complain about every day that doesn't directly impact you in any way, shape or form? It must be the pinnacle of political achievement.

[jno]

voters have short memories, Trotbot. I hear people complaining about the economy who have no idea inflation used to be above 20%. Kids today, they don't know they're alive...

[Dom Tuk]

A well in the midlands is a source of the water used in HP sauce and gives it its unique flavour. I dont think so. Its a myth. The same myth that says most Irish pubs in the world have been moved brick by brick from Ireland. Dont believe this nonsense. The water comes from a tap in the factory. And if required the water can be transported to Holland if it is so important to the manufacturing process.

JNO would like us to believe that life is great under this govt. Car maufacturing in the north is finished. every day factories are closing. tens of thousand of jobs have been lost to overseas. All the lefties can do is talk about the blip in the UK financial history that came about from the ERM and Soros. It just happened to be that Major and the Torys were in charge. Their labour leader will bang on about the time when interests rates were 14 %. It reached 14 % from what in how many days??. Ask JNO that?

[Dom Tuk]

dont know what happened there. my answer is in response to the question about HP sauce in Birmingham. the other bit about JNO still applies.

[Trotbot]

DT, most Irish pubs are bought off the internet (click on that genuinely fake memorabilia), but nevertheless do try and stick to the point. As it happens, HP sauce is a big part of my life.

It wasn't 14% for long, but that cost 18 billion (from memory, please let me know if that is wrong). It was 10%-11% for quite a while and upper single digits for very much longer

[jake-the-peg]

Soros was more than a blip.

A government pour billions away because they were too pig-headed to back down.

Ministers went to jail because they were arrogant enough to think they could lie in court and get away with it.

Margaret Thatcher started a financial poilcy called "trickle down" where they paid all the fat cats big tax cuts in the hope that it'd trickle down to the plebs and no go into BMWs and foreign holidays.

The crux is the Tory party have never cared for the man in the street they've always supported the interests of corporates and financial institutions.

They opposed the minimum wage - what else do you need to know?

[Dicko_82]

The vast majority of all Politicians for the main partys are that far detached from reality it's beyond belief. Only interested in their own greedy interests.

No wonder more peopleare begining to vote for the likes of the BNP.

[sp1814]

Dom Tuk...ermmm- who started the trend for closing down our manufacturing industries???

Wasn't it Thatcher?

Seriously - has everyone forgotten that one???

[sp1814]

I really don't think people are voting for the BNP because they've made an informed political decision...it's because they are stupid and read The Sun.

Sorry if any of you support the BNP...but I'm sick to death of people trying to legitemise people who would like to beat up, then deport my family.

Ummm...betting back to the point...people in this country need things to complain about. We're living the life of Riley. We have nothing to complain about.

We drive to Sainsburys and buy bottled water.

Think about that....we drive to Sainsburys and buy bottled water.

Compare that to a child in the Sudan.

We complain because there's little to complain about, and we should be ashamed about that.

[Dom Tuk]

Fairpoint sp1814, i do find it frustating when they talk about child poverty in the UK.

[PhilBy]

There is a true Tory thinker for you folks, DT whinges like an old washer woman about anything & everything that has been done under this present goverment but finds it frustrating to hear about child poverty becuase children in the Sudan have it worse. Pure blue classic!

[PhilBy]

Is Council Tax not banded fender62? ie. The more your property is worth the higher the tax band.

[Dom Tuk]

Atleast i reserve my venom for the labour party and dont get personal with people who post in AB...eh Philby.

[Dicko_82]

1814 " I really don't think people are voting for the BNP because they've made an informed polictical decision... it's because they are stupid and read The Sun"

Hardly!

During the run up to the recent Local Elections, The Sun ran many anti BNP articles & features.

So that one just does not ring true I'm afraid.

[jno]

Dom Tuk my comment was non-party specific. I was thinking not of Soros's salad days but of the high-inflation period in the late 70s and early 80s under both Labour and Tories. (I don't agree, though, that it was just chance that the Tories were the ones who entered the ERM at the worst possible exchange rate; I'm not convinced Labour would have done so.)

Considering the minimal inflation rate at present, this simply backs up what Trotbot says: many of the people who moan about the economy today simply have no idea how much worse it was not so long ago. Do the kids who grumble about the cost of mobile phone connections realise that you used to have to wait six months to get a phone in your home at all? Do you know there was a time you couldn't get ciabatta and rocket salad for love nor money?