Sink Hole, Residents-Evacuated

[trt]

How would you go on if, your house was not insured for incidents like this.
Would the Council/Government pay up?

And before its filled in, who would you like to throw in?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3256035/Residents-evacuated-massive-sinkhole-opens-suburban-cul-sac.html#newcomment

[Quizproquo]

Mackems, Geordies, Smoggies and Monkey Hangers the lot of you. :p

[Jackdaw33]

LOL!!!!!

[brenda]

Don't forget the Tackems as well.

[Jackdaw33]

Actually the nicknames are even more parochial than that. When I was a student I would spend the summer vacation labouring in the shipyards. The workforce was generically divided into two categories, Northsiders or Southsiders, depending on which side of the river you lived. More specifically, those from Wallsend were called Hillbillies, from the steep hill which led from the town to the docks. Those from North Shields were called Cod Heads, from the fishing fleets which landed there. Those from South Shields were Sand Dancers, because of the large Arab population there since the 19C.

[Sir Alec]

Since no-one has answered the second part, I guess there's several people I'd like to throw in: Anjem Choudary, all his friends and anyone who follows him.

[tonyav]

I'd throw in who ever it is that keeps making up these silly smoking laws.

[Sir Alec]

Yes, Tony, the police have stated, quite rightly, that it is almost unenforceable. Mobile phones are still being used in cars on a regular basis. I'd like to report people like that - it's not their own necks they're risking - but it's your word against theirs.

[tonyav]

Yes Sir A, I see no end of motorists ( usually White van man ) using mobile phones whilst driving around. Not many police patrol cars though.

[Sir Alec]

Thurlstone is just off the main road to Manchester. About a mile down the road are a set of traffic lights on a major bend. You can't believe the amount of juggernauts I see driving on that bend, the driver with a phone plastered to his ear. It makes me wince when I think that one false move/bad news on the phone and the other vehicles around wouldn't stand a chance. He'd probably get away without a scratch.

[tonyav]

Yes Sir A, a very dangerous practice what ever the vehicle.

( are you gonna post a few records on Mamya's thread ? ).

[Hypognosis]

The number of sinkhole stories seems to be increasing, in recent years. Western Florida is peppered with them. There was that campsite in Australia just a few days ago.

Is there limestone bedrock under this street?

[tonyav]

I remember this one from nor so long back at the corvette museum at Bowling Green Kentucky.
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/e73052038a7bda893279620499985b4818f71057/c=600-0-2000-1052&r=x404&;c=534x401/local/-/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2014/02/12//1392253216000-XXX-Corvette-aftermath-01.jpg

[tamborine]

Never heard of sink holes 20y+ ago. I wonder why? Whats the cause?

[Hypognosis]

I should have read the article all the way through.

"'Recently, the weather in this part of the country has been relatively dry and water tables may have lowered. The strata at the site consist of about 4m (13ft) of sands, silts and gravels overlying chalk."
[...]
"In St Albans this chalk is covered with thin layers of silt, gravel and clay. As rainwater filters through these layers it becomes more acidic, dissolving the clay beneath. This process may have caused an underground chamber to collapse and in turn trigger a crater to form."

There is no mention in the article of concepts like "acid rain" but, with global CO2 elevated from 250 to 400+ parts per million you would expect a mild increase in rainwater acidity and long term affects below ground. However, the white cliffs on the Channel coast aren't exactly dissolving before our eyes, so it's clearly not that bad.

For what it's worth, the acidification of Scandinavian lakes was eventually proven to be caused not by acid rain from factory chimneys in the northern UK but by rainwater runoff through the layers of pine needles on their own forest floors - the reason why conifer plantations never have undergrowth is that needle drop destroys practically all competing plants by changing the pH of the soil.

[Hypognosis]

By the way, which is best for evacuating residents, prunes, cascara or senokot?

[lady-janine]

old mining corridors and shafts, many of them n listed in any way, and fracking seem to be a bit of partnership. one that I hope never happens.