Jack Russell dogs.

[Vimto]

I have just acquired a Jack Russell puppy and wish to insure her. My broker has asked me if Jack Russells are considered a "pedigree" breed and I couldn't answer the question with authority. I suggested he ask the insurance company who are to insure the dog and he said they wouldn't know. In the event of a claim I bet they would soon tell me!
Can anyone help with advice please?

[divegirl]

Eh Trimeresurus?
The pedigree is the linage of the dog! All this means is that they have papers from the Kennel Club.
If asking if your dog was a pure bred then you would probably need to have Pedigree papers [to show his breeding lines], if you don't have them then you dog 'may' not be considered as valuable.
For example, for showing or breeding purposes.

Lisa x

[divegirl]

Sorry....should have added, if you have Papers for you pup then he is a pedigree. If not then he will cost [or should] you less to insure!

Lisa x

[carrot99]

Lisa - as per Trim!

"The Kennel Club do not recognise the Jack Russell as a pedigree breed and thus you should not expect papers with a Jack Russell puppy. The Parsons Jack Russell is recognised as a pedigree and thus depending upon the status of the breeder you may or may not be supplied papers with a puppy."

[divegirl]

Oh well I apologise....didn't have time to Google myself! Was going on in brain knowledge.

[lankeela]

A Jack Russell is not a 'pedigree' breed, although they can be 'purebred' i.e. both parents were Jack Russells and their parents before them. The Parson Russell Terrier is a 'pedigree' breed and is recognised by the Kennel Club as such. For the purpose of insurance I would say he is not a pedigree in the general sense of the word, e.g. no papers and no record of parents being pedigree.

[Vimto]

Thank you all. I will consider HER not a pedigree dog.

One other matter which has arisen today is that I have found a hardish lump just over her shoulder blade near her spine which has slightly alarmed me but then thought it might be the result of her first injection last Friday which was in this region (today is the following Wednesday) which has caused it . Again any advice on this please.

[RATTER15]

What a load of old tosh, The Kennel Club needs to stop buqqering around with these dogs!! They really have been the ruination of so many dogs!! I for one am ashamed at being associated with the Kennell Club.

I have had Jack Russells for years, a Jack Russell is Jack Russell, it is a type of dog not a breed, the Jack Russell Terrier with the longer legs were always known as the Parson Jack Russell.

Jack Russell enthusiast always said it would be the downfall of the Jack Russell if ever it became recognised by the Kennel Club as a breed but I suppose they have just kind of taken a branch of the Jack Russell and called it a Parson Russell.

A load of old poppycock if you ask me!!!

[lankeela]

LOL, actually Ratter what they have done is take the ORIGINAL type of Jack Russell as bred by Parson Jack Russell and acknowledged it as a pedigree breed, as opposed to all the short legged imitations that are now known as Jack Russells! The longer legged ones are what he bred and they have only recently been accepted as such after many years of being incorrectly called Jack Russells. They were called Parson Jack Russell Terriers when first recognised by the KC but they have recently dropped the word Jack from this as it gives the wrong impression that they are Jack Russells.

[RATTER15]

But that is the problem lankeela, the Jack Russell is a dog distinguished by type rather than looks.

Im just a purist with a great love of the Jack Russell, so now a Jack Russell is a short stumpy barrel chested creature with a queen Ann leg at each corner that couldn't even fit into a fox hole and the Russell Terrier maybe a fine looking creature indeed but lacks the traits of a genuine jack Russell.

Well at least the Infernal KC cant insist on cutting off their tail, that would have been the last straw for this fantastic dog!!


and breath...........................

[RATTER15]

Oh and I bet the Parson, who incidentally lived just a few miles down the road from me was a RAW feeder :-) xx

[lankeela]

Don't take my word for it: http://www.parsonruss...ub.co.uk/history.html

[RATTER15]

I just wish the Jack Russell hadnt fallen to the grasp of the kennell Club.

My first Jack Russell (Dog) my breeding, was named after John Russells foundation terrier Trump and his Mother (Tiggy) came from Swimbridge the home of The Parson himself.

[craft1948]

My westie has his full so many generation papers and is KC registered. Looking at him if he's pedigree I'm a Jack Russell..............

[lankeela]

But it was the owners of the Parsons that wanted them to be KC recognised - so that they would remain the pure bred lines they had always been rather than mixed up with the Jack Russells or Hunt Terriers with the short legs. Not the KC's fault, they only did what the breed enthusiasts wanted. They turned them down at first then accepted them when they applied again.

[RATTER15]

Sounds a bit strange craft, got a pic?

[RATTER15]

But it was the showey crowd that wanted it, not the working terrier lot!

[craft1948]

Not a clear one Ratter.............the dog groomer took one look at him and said quite disgustedly "Well he's not pure westie"..........I replied "I'm asking you to clip him not groom him for bloody Crufts"
He is massive, not fat but solid muscle and weighs around 12 kgs and is longer bodied than any other westie I have ever seen.

[abstibus]

As an aside, I love Jack Russells. I had one at 3 weeks old who had been abandoned my his mother (but that's another story).
I had him for over 17 years - or he had me. He had his 'own' chair', and if anyone else dared to sit in it, he came and stared at them until they moved. He was such a character - ruled the house, was always up to some kind of mischief, was great with children, later developed selective deafness and then cataracts, and had to be 'herded' by my lab.
I was overseas for a long period, and he died the day after I came back - I like to think he waited for me.
I hope you and your little friend have such a rewarding relationship.

[slinkycat]

I'm very offended Ratter by your accurate description of my JRT with his little bandy legs ;-)
Pleased to report though that his tail measures in at a magnificent 7 inches!
A fact that has not gone unnoticed by several people who have told me that I ought to get it seen to!