dogs on leads

[fruitsalad]

I realise people like to let their dogs run free, but I sometimes wonder if when they let their dog run up to other dogs they stop to think whether or not the other dog is friendly we have 2 jack russells which really dont like other dogs so they are always kept on a lead very close by, but it really annoys me when people assume they will be friendly to their dog, when they let it come bounding over, I spend most of my time when we are on walks saying to people dont let your dog come close because they are not very friendly to other dogs and is very likely to go for him/her which has happened in the past, and the other dog im afraid to say came off worse because of it.

[seadogg]

My dogs have all been trained to sit and stay for a minimum of 100 metres.
How? Treats in the beginning until it became second nature. This point is made only to say that treats have a legitimate use with dogs. To curry favour- never!

[woofgang]

I have a rock solid distance recall with mine based on chunks of dry baked turkey thigh :-)

[ladybirder]

He should never be allowed near a dog let alone call himself a trainer. He uses fear based methods and sets the dogs up for failure. And a STUN collar the barsteward.

[ladybirder]

I meant to put this one up.

[seadogg]

Not nice to see Ladybirder. I had him down as a phoney and that caps it.

[Kristal53]

@jules77 -if your life revolves around your dogs that are your babies I think its you that needs to get our more mate (or maybe get a girl/boyfriend?) ;-)

[Kristal53]

@wolfgang -training any animal means using different methods for different things - I have a solid recall of my horses -i whistle and they come galloping over because they know I've got carrots - but the carrot thing will not work in other situations .

[ladybirder]

It's amazing isn't it. Our dogs are friendly and well trained and can be let off the lead. But people with dogs that cannot be trusted and have to be kept on the lead but still attack another dog that dares to come close to it, think the person with the friendly dog is in the wrong. Unbelievable! Their dog may be on a lead but they still have no control over it if it is attacking another dog whilst on that lead. News flash. It is against the law to have a dog out of control in a public place.

[Kristal53]

Those videos are made to be emotive -half the time he was not kicking the dogs if you look carefully - and those dogs he is dealing with are dangerous and should be put down anyway-the fault of their owners treating them like children instead of dogs. I don't condone any form of cruelty and certainly not electric collars and zappers - I don't like cesar millan as he is just like Monty Roberts -had some good ideas but got caught up with fame and fortune. I will continue to treat my animals like animals and respect them for what they are and not morph them into surrogate children or my best friends

[lcg]

i have a cat who plays fetch....brings toys to us to play with and another one who sits and stays on command! (all taught in a relatively short space of time and who enjoy it). my third moggy is she who will be obeyed and rules the roost. my household is very strange....x

[pastafreak]

Kristal53
woolfgang -tell that to cesar millan cos most of what I've said comes from him. I personally am sick and tired of 'dog lovers' who let their mutts rule their lives and treat them like their little babies. True animal lovers treat their animals -whatever they are -as animals not replacement children. As for knowing nothing about dogs -well OH trains working sheepdogs but I prefer cats, who are untrainable and thats how i like them - i am a total slave to my cat (sorry her majesty) ;-)

kristal - Yesterday you said that most of what you said was from Caesar Milan
tonight you seem to be backtracking > I don't like cesar millan as he is just like Monty Roberts -had some good ideas but got caught up with fame and fortune. <
So which is it?

[lcg]

p.s. having watched that bloke kick those dogs made me want to kick him - what a cruel git! that kind of behaviour has no place in animal training. disgusting.

[ladybirder]

@Kristal so half the time he didn't kick the dogs eh? Well I dispute that but you think the other half was OK then when he actually lifted them off their feet?
And you think those dogs that he provokes into retaliation should be put down. Jeeez ... It ain't the dogs that should be put down. And please stop calling people who have brought their dogs up in a kindly way, as treating them like children. I too believe in treating animals like animals, and I do so. People who let their animals rule the roost pee me off as well but no need to have a go at everybody on here.

Woofgang is right, you know b all about how to train dogs.

[FredPuli43]

Most embarrassing moment: I had a standard poodle bitch, as friendly with other dogs as anyone could wish. One day I was sitting in the park with her on a lead when a woman with a tiny Yorkshire terrier said to me 'Is you dog friendly?' and just as I said 'Yes' the bitch picked it up by the scruff of the neck and then dropped it! Perhaps she thought she was being polite or it was some kind of fluffy toy! She didn't shake it or hurt it, just picked it up and dropped it. Quite extraordinary! The woman and I just looked at each other, each as surprised as the other, and she walked on without a word.

Don't know what Cesar Milan or Barbara Woodhouse would have made of that.(And yes, their methods are/were wrong )

[Mrsspagnoli57]

Our lovely beagle (now sadly no longer with us) was attacked in our own garden by the next door neighbours Jack Russell. I heard the commotion and had to hit the Jack Russell with a sweeping brush just to distract him for the brief seconds it took to get our dog back in the house-I still remember sitting on the kitchen floor shaking while our old dog trembled and whined in shock. The Jack Russell was fine with people-he was uncontrollable with other dogs-would go for any dog however big. I don't believe in cruelty to dogs and wouldn't advocate hitting them but a hefty swipe with a brush was the only way to get him away from our dog. That little dog made our beagle's final years a misery.

[ladybirder]

That's horrible mrssp. Your poor beagle. I've had one and they are such lovely animals. The owners of that JR should never have been allowed to keep a dog until they could control it.