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Why does everyone HATE hunting
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why does everyone hate foxhuning, when they dont understand, what hunting does for wildlife;.
Hunting helps, the farmer, the badger, the birdlife, the rivers, the bridle paths, the grouse, phesant, the deer, the pony club, the city folk walkking in the country, (yep we maintain your walk ways) the environment, ecology, the country pubs------------
Hunting helps, the farmer, the badger, the birdlife, the rivers, the bridle paths, the grouse, phesant, the deer, the pony club, the city folk walkking in the country, (yep we maintain your walk ways) the environment, ecology, the country pubs------------
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I don't hate hunting.....I just love all you say about it even though I have no connection with it, I support you entirely..........so do many but in today's " politically correct" world they don't say so.
As for the fox.........he takes his chances in this world like the rabbits and field mice etc he eats and the chickens he kills for FUN..........
As for the fox.........he takes his chances in this world like the rabbits and field mice etc he eats and the chickens he kills for FUN..........
So what about all the foxes- deers- rabbits-cats-dogs etc that are hit by cars?Shouldnt there be protests about that?
There are more killed by transport each day than people going hunting for a reason.
I know lets hunt the immergrants instead -why theres plenty of them and they are no use to us.
So you will kill a horse but object to killing foxes?
But arent all the foxes now in london spreading desease?
It sounds like Townies trying to run the countryside again.
There are more killed by transport each day than people going hunting for a reason.
I know lets hunt the immergrants instead -why theres plenty of them and they are no use to us.
So you will kill a horse but object to killing foxes?
But arent all the foxes now in london spreading desease?
It sounds like Townies trying to run the countryside again.
It is mostly the barbaric way the fox is killed that upsets alot of folks (morning horsey- we touched on this last night didn't we? LOL)
I find that people finding the ripping of foxes apart as entertainment truly horrific.Yes I agree that fox numbers should be managed, however can anyone who's a pro hunter honestly say that the odd fox they manage to catch is making a jot of difference to their numbers???
And im sick of hearing the gumph that it's a English tradition too- so was bear baiting.....'nuff said!
I find that people finding the ripping of foxes apart as entertainment truly horrific.Yes I agree that fox numbers should be managed, however can anyone who's a pro hunter honestly say that the odd fox they manage to catch is making a jot of difference to their numbers???
And im sick of hearing the gumph that it's a English tradition too- so was bear baiting.....'nuff said!
I don't think everyone hates fox hunting, but as a city dweller, I am bemused by it, as you cannot eat the prey.
Foxes do not kill for fun like some Moriarty of the animal kingdom, Engineer. Evolution has taught them that scarcites occur and when presented with an opportunity to kill, they will.
When they enter a coop or hutch, they expect the prey to run or fly away. When it doesn't they kill! If left to its own devices for a day or so, the fox would return to and bury much of the kill like a dog buries a bone. This would be his cache/larder and he would return to eat carrion.
Foxes do not kill for fun like some Moriarty of the animal kingdom, Engineer. Evolution has taught them that scarcites occur and when presented with an opportunity to kill, they will.
When they enter a coop or hutch, they expect the prey to run or fly away. When it doesn't they kill! If left to its own devices for a day or so, the fox would return to and bury much of the kill like a dog buries a bone. This would be his cache/larder and he would return to eat carrion.
Sorry Engineer, I meant to reply to commoner about the killing for fun comment. Bit worried about your immigrant statement though. I would have thought a much more useful countryside prey would have been members of the aristocracy. Now there's a pointless, pampered and in-bred specimen that needs culling.
Started to read the replies with a sense of resignation and despair, but was pleasantly surprised to see most replies are not against.
400,000 people on the Countryside Alliance March cannot all be wrong..........I was there and proud of it.
How many of those against hunting have done anything other than put emotive comments on forums like this?
And as for breaking horses legs, now that is really the comment of an animal lover (NOT)!
400,000 people on the Countryside Alliance March cannot all be wrong..........I was there and proud of it.
How many of those against hunting have done anything other than put emotive comments on forums like this?
And as for breaking horses legs, now that is really the comment of an animal lover (NOT)!
Of course it's an emotive subject!
Despite claims that hunts are beneficial to the countryside as a whole, how can anyone justify ripping apart an animal in the name of sport? Do these people enjoy seeing this happen? If so there's something fundementally wrong in their genetics.
And no one has answered my point that the odd fox that the hunt manages to get is somehow helping to decimate the vast numbers?
Despite claims that hunts are beneficial to the countryside as a whole, how can anyone justify ripping apart an animal in the name of sport? Do these people enjoy seeing this happen? If so there's something fundementally wrong in their genetics.
And no one has answered my point that the odd fox that the hunt manages to get is somehow helping to decimate the vast numbers?
Cats also hunt for fun (see how many birds and mice etc they kill), how many people would advocate allowing a cat to be torn to pieces by two or three dogs? People get taken to court for allowing their terriers etc. to savage cats. What is the difference?
Before anyone says that cats are pets there are people who have kept foxes as pets.
I am not against foxes being controlled (I have lived in the country all my life and have NEVER seen a fox!) I am 41 years old! But like BOO says it is the method that bothers most objectors.
To see any animal run down and then torn to pieces by a pack of hounds has got to be barbaric in anyones book.
As for the argument about the hounds having to be put to sleep what do people think happens to the hounds after their working life is over? Do people honestly think they are quietly put to sleep by a vet? Or rehomed to sleep out their retirement by someones fire? Like racing greyhounds these are working animals and disposed of in a similar way.
The vast majority of countryside people cannot afford to hunt!
Before anyone says that cats are pets there are people who have kept foxes as pets.
I am not against foxes being controlled (I have lived in the country all my life and have NEVER seen a fox!) I am 41 years old! But like BOO says it is the method that bothers most objectors.
To see any animal run down and then torn to pieces by a pack of hounds has got to be barbaric in anyones book.
As for the argument about the hounds having to be put to sleep what do people think happens to the hounds after their working life is over? Do people honestly think they are quietly put to sleep by a vet? Or rehomed to sleep out their retirement by someones fire? Like racing greyhounds these are working animals and disposed of in a similar way.
The vast majority of countryside people cannot afford to hunt!
I really struggle with this one, living in a rural/urban area.
If I kept chickens or rabbits and had them killed by a fox I would undoubteldy be incandescent. At the same time I absolutely hate the idea of any fox being run down until it is exhausted and then being ripped apart by hounds with the agreement of human beings who regard this as an acceptable leisure pursuit.
We feed the local foxes who visit our garden every night and are beginning to recognise them individually. Some of them are very hungry and skinny, and although some might suggest that a quick death might be a better deal for them than their existing life, I would not want to have any part of the cruel death which hunting involves. If these animals have to be culled (and I accept that from time to time this will be necessary) , instant shooting is the only method I could condone.
If I kept chickens or rabbits and had them killed by a fox I would undoubteldy be incandescent. At the same time I absolutely hate the idea of any fox being run down until it is exhausted and then being ripped apart by hounds with the agreement of human beings who regard this as an acceptable leisure pursuit.
We feed the local foxes who visit our garden every night and are beginning to recognise them individually. Some of them are very hungry and skinny, and although some might suggest that a quick death might be a better deal for them than their existing life, I would not want to have any part of the cruel death which hunting involves. If these animals have to be culled (and I accept that from time to time this will be necessary) , instant shooting is the only method I could condone.
Unfortunately with the amount of concreting over of our green and pleasant land these creatures are encroaching more and more into our towns and cities to scavenge for food.
Hedgerows disappear at a rate of knots which brings more scavengers like the magpie into town.
I sit on the fence with hunting ..I think it 's cruel for an animal to be ripped to shreds by dogs.I don't believe those that say they are killed quickly by the dogs..If people want to hunt ..fair enough but they could drag hunt or something .I think Oscar Wilde summed it up as " the unspeakable in full pursuit of the uneatable".
We used to get lots of urban foxes in London when I lived there and I used to feed them.
If they have to be culled then there must be more humane ways of doing it.
Anyway here is my pet fox
http://i2.tinypic.com/smvlf4.jpg
Hedgerows disappear at a rate of knots which brings more scavengers like the magpie into town.
I sit on the fence with hunting ..I think it 's cruel for an animal to be ripped to shreds by dogs.I don't believe those that say they are killed quickly by the dogs..If people want to hunt ..fair enough but they could drag hunt or something .I think Oscar Wilde summed it up as " the unspeakable in full pursuit of the uneatable".
We used to get lots of urban foxes in London when I lived there and I used to feed them.
If they have to be culled then there must be more humane ways of doing it.
Anyway here is my pet fox
http://i2.tinypic.com/smvlf4.jpg
I don't hate foxhunting. It's not barbaric. I've been closer to a fox kill than some huntsmen. The lead hound killed it and by the time the rest of the pack had reached it, believe me, it was long dead. Only then was there much blood.
I have also seen the remains of a chicken shed the morning after a fox attack, and the heartbreak on an old man's face as he surveyed it - those birds were his retirement interest.
Like it or not, foxhunting has, over the past 300 years or so, become part of the fabric and economy of British rural life. Rural people's lives revolve around it (and I don't mean those who live in the country just because it's 'pretty' either).
Did you know that during the war, when foxhunting ceased, the fox population (which is a native species, by the way - not imported) almost disappeared? There was no-one to maintain the woodlands, hedgerows and coverts that the foxes use to breed and live. Now we don't have foxhunting anymore, of course. we don't need these little bits of the landscape. There's no incentive for farmers to maintain them, so they may as well dig them up and plough them over for more growing space. Of course, the hundreds of other species - animals, plants, insects, birds - that have come to rely on them will have to go too, but hey, you can't have everything.
I have also seen the remains of a chicken shed the morning after a fox attack, and the heartbreak on an old man's face as he surveyed it - those birds were his retirement interest.
Like it or not, foxhunting has, over the past 300 years or so, become part of the fabric and economy of British rural life. Rural people's lives revolve around it (and I don't mean those who live in the country just because it's 'pretty' either).
Did you know that during the war, when foxhunting ceased, the fox population (which is a native species, by the way - not imported) almost disappeared? There was no-one to maintain the woodlands, hedgerows and coverts that the foxes use to breed and live. Now we don't have foxhunting anymore, of course. we don't need these little bits of the landscape. There's no incentive for farmers to maintain them, so they may as well dig them up and plough them over for more growing space. Of course, the hundreds of other species - animals, plants, insects, birds - that have come to rely on them will have to go too, but hey, you can't have everything.
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