referencing books???

[ilovemarkb]

For uni i need to reference books i.e author,year of publication, title...etc etc
But im not sure which year to put in my reference list as theres normally a few listed. Please can anyone help...thanks julie

[boxtops]

It depends which system you are using e.g. Hansard as to the format of the referencing (my uni used Hansard) - but you always put the original year of publication, not later editions of the publication (unless the book was later revised).

[Count-A-Strong]

Possibly the one you got the information from.

[boxtops]

Can you expand on exactly what you mean by "normally a few listed"? A book will only have one original date of publication.

[dotty.]

You will have a guide to compiling a bibliography in your induction pack surely

[bednobs]

i disagree about putting the date of the "original" book. Surely you should put the date of the actual book you looked in

[bednobs]

ps boxy, do you mean harvard referencing?

[Whickerman]

I use Harvard referencing (check out Leeds Uni site, great guide there) and this provides for the use of editions.

[boxtops]

Yes I do mean Harvard, sorry all - by original book, I mean the date the book was first published, not later printings. So you could say ** London, 2nd Ed., 1998 ?

[20SilkCut]

You should always try and read the most up to date book and inside the cover there will be a date of the printing of the book and the edition etc. The url below will give you a good guide for Harvard referencing. Also if you have got the book out from your uni library etc, it should give the date on the Catalogue listing. Hope this helps.

http://libweb.anglia....ferencing/harvard.htm

[ilovemarkb]

thanks guys!! (and gals). The book that i am referencing is "nursing knowledge and practise" 2nd edition. havard is the system we have to use. it says inside book
first edition 1998
second edition 2004
reprinted 2005
copyright 1998
copyright 2004 Elsevier limited
so im presuming it is 2004 since i have the second edition but unsure? i don't start uni till 24th jan so just trying to swot up a little!

[20SilkCut]

Hi - yep i think you are correct - the 2nd edition is 2004...see below...just to double check...

Title Nursing knowledge & practice : foundations for decision making / edited by Maggie Mallik, Carol Hall, David Howard.
Edition 2nd ed.
Published Edinburgh : Baillière Tindall, 2004.
Bib Id 1338075
ISBN 0702026972
Physical details xvi, 464p : ill. ; 28 cm.
Note Previous ed.: 1998.

[ilovemarkb]

wow! how did you get them details silkcut?

[ilovemarkb]

oh goodness it even tells me the publisher and where it was printed fanbloodytastic!

[20SilkCut]

I just put the book name into the search facility in my local university library catalogue....gives all the details of the books.... Cant you do the same in the place you study - ie their library catalogue?

[boxtops]

I'm sure (as dotty says) that your programme handbook will have full details in it about referencing, with handy hints etc. Great that you are reading ahead - and I have heard that book is good, some of my colleagues have used it for reference.

[ilovemarkb]

ive already registered on their blackboard so im going to have a look now!. The college blackboard was quite easy bet the uni one is difficult to navigate but here go,s....thanks your a star!!

[ilovemarkb]

you're all very helpful!! thanks julie

[boxtops]

Good luck with the course - let us know how you get on!

[20SilkCut]

No prob - as boxtops says - good luck with it all - we might need your expertise sometime :-)

[ilovemarkb]

that facility not available silkcut but never mind. One more quick question it said in your anwser that it was published in edinburgh....yet i cant see the name edinburgh anywhere on the page, however it does say "printed in china" at the bottom of the page, does PUBLISHED and PRINTED mean the same thing? sorry for being a pain in the butt