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so , GP'S have not been sending patients for hospital treatment
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we all must write to our MP, I have also written to the health minister we cannot give GP'S the budget to pay with, they have shown they cannot be trusted.
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.Sqad - late referral may be a factor in other cancers but not breast.
The cancer figures widely reported in the headlines, and by politicians come from the EUROCARE database. These are historical and date back to 1999-2002, and do not reflect recent trends.
As you can see from Table 1 in this link there is a huge difference between the percentage of cancers reported in European countries - the UK reports100% as it has a National database, whereas countries like France and Spain respectively only report 15 and 16% of their total cancers, making it difficult to compare.
http://www.eurocare.i...79/Default.aspx#eu4dB
In an article in the BMJ recently John Appleby from the Kings Fund points out that in two instances- death rate from myocardial infarction and death rate from breast cancer, the UK will, if trends continue, should have lower death rates than France in one or two years, in spite of the fact that the UK spends 8.7% of it's GDP on healthcare as opposed to France 11.7%.
http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.d566.full
But I didn't see many headlines pointing that out, as it suits the purpose of politicians to see the NHS as broken and in need of their particular fix,
The cancer figures widely reported in the headlines, and by politicians come from the EUROCARE database. These are historical and date back to 1999-2002, and do not reflect recent trends.
As you can see from Table 1 in this link there is a huge difference between the percentage of cancers reported in European countries - the UK reports100% as it has a National database, whereas countries like France and Spain respectively only report 15 and 16% of their total cancers, making it difficult to compare.
http://www.eurocare.i...79/Default.aspx#eu4dB
In an article in the BMJ recently John Appleby from the Kings Fund points out that in two instances- death rate from myocardial infarction and death rate from breast cancer, the UK will, if trends continue, should have lower death rates than France in one or two years, in spite of the fact that the UK spends 8.7% of it's GDP on healthcare as opposed to France 11.7%.
http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.d566.full
But I didn't see many headlines pointing that out, as it suits the purpose of politicians to see the NHS as broken and in need of their particular fix,
Slaney.....your point is well taken, but if your look at your first graph, that for Ca. breast, the UK is well down the league and continues to be so. I agree that recent comments about GP referrals are not the whole picture, but in my opinion GP referrals have always been slow..... certainly in the past 40 years and in my opinion this is reflected in the poor cancer survival rates, including breast.
If I have missed your point then please forgive me.
If I have missed your point then please forgive me.
You were so busy being angry that you neglected to explain the thrust of your post.
Of course GPs have been sending patients to Hospital. I've been myself in recent months as has my father........you need to give more details for us to understand exactly what your gripe is.
Multi-talented as I am, I'm not psychic.
Fred was in Winsford, in case anyone is interested.
Of course GPs have been sending patients to Hospital. I've been myself in recent months as has my father........you need to give more details for us to understand exactly what your gripe is.
Multi-talented as I am, I'm not psychic.
Fred was in Winsford, in case anyone is interested.
I understand weas' annoyance if a hospital referral has not been made, but it's nothing to do with GP Commissioning Consortia, it's the Department of Health trying to put the NHS budget back in some semblance of balance, before the money is handed to the GPs who will commission. Everything we do, we are being told that it must be handed over in good order.
Sqad - the point I was making about breast cancer was that those tables refer to the period 1995-1999, when the results were falling behind other European countries, but if you look at the second article progress has been made since then and the gap is being closed.
I sometimes get a bit peeved when the NHS is made out to be worse than it is.
As regards other common cancers I completely agree that earlier referral is crucial to ensure better survival figures.
I sometimes get a bit peeved when the NHS is made out to be worse than it is.
As regards other common cancers I completely agree that earlier referral is crucial to ensure better survival figures.
There's still a two-week target from seeing the GP to seeing a specialist, for cancers. but it doesn't always seem to be helping diagnosis, according to Pulse http://www.pulsetoday...asp?storycode=4011992
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