How Would You React?

[RATTER15]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=570291502983270


I would have wanted to give each of them a physical talking to, I just would hope that I could restrain myself, I think I would have to have forcibly removed them from the store!!

Its a very sad world where this abuse is still actually tolerated!!

[andy-hughes]

jomifl - "I agree with sqad, an unreal situation produces unreal responses and proves nothing."

It's only 'unreal' because you know it is.

If you were a customer, you would have no idea - as those individulas did not know - and they behaved according to how they felt - or not, which was shameful.

[RATTER15]

jomifl, //I agree with sqad, an unreal situation produces unreal responses and proves nothing.//

It was a very real situation! it was just played out by actors, this crap does go on and if you think it doesn't you are living in cuckoo land!!

[jomifl]

Ratter, I have never encountered a situation like this.

[andy-hughes]

jomifl - lucky you!

I have - as I described - more than once.

If you go through your life and never see the injustice and cruelty that some people live with on a daily basis, then you are very very lucky indeed.

[B00]

Me neither jom.

[B00]

with all due respect andy, what you described what different. That was a racial slur. Ratter is asking what we'd do in this situation, where a person is discriminated against for their disability.

[237SJ]

I don`t know how I would react but I can understand the other customers not wanting to get into a slanging match with the shopper. I would probably just keep quiet (to prevent said slanging match) and inform the manager that a staff member was being abused. It`s easy to sit on the sofa (as others have said) and say "I would do this or that etc" but I wonder how many people would in real life? It`s not real life though - it`s acting and I don`t see the point of it TBH

[gness]

Interesting that most of those who reacted in the video were women....

Many years ago a boyfriend and I witnessed a man who was sweeping the floors in a shopping centre being tormented by some youths. Kicking his broom and sweepings.

I took his broom and challenged the lads to do the same to me....I followed them through the centre repeating my challenge....til they left.

When I asked the boyfriend why he hadn't stepped in he said he was more likely to be attacked than I was....because he was male.....

The evidence on this thread shows that men will step in regardless.....which they should....the boyfriend didn't last...wuss!

But could he have had a point....albeit a weak one?

p.s. Took me ages to find the chap to return his broom.....☺

[Mamyalynne]

I totally understand those who have never encountered such behaviour struggling to know how they would react.


I found it simple to answer as I have encountered it and reacted, now I am older and a bit more fragile, would I think twice? Doubt it, still would wade in and empower the ones being verbally bad mouthed.

[andy-hughes]

BOO - "with all due respect andy, what you described what different. That was a racial slur. Ratter is asking what we'd do in this situation, where a person is discriminated against for their disability."

Not at all.

Discrimination is discrimination - nasty rudeness is nasty rudeness - the root cause is absolutely not the issue. Just because my abusee was abused for her ethnicity makes it no different from a person abused for their mental capacity - we are born the way we are - no-one has a right to abuse anyone because of it.

[jomifl]

The situation was hypothetical and contrived, pointless disussing it.

[andy-hughes]

Mamyalynne - "
Mamyalynne

I totally understand those who have never encountered such behaviour struggling to know how they would react.


I found it simple to answer as I have encountered it and reacted, now I am older and a bit more fragile, would I think twice? Doubt it, still would wade in and empower the ones being verbally bad mouthed."

I appreciate your position - but I am five foot ten and male and I have a big, loud, seriously articulate voice, and I would wade in every single time.

[gness]

What Elvis in the video has to endure is not hypothetical, Jom...x

[AlwaysConfused]

I would reassure the worker that he is doing a great job, and would have confronted that customer once they left the store. I would not put the worker through more humiliation by arguing in front of him.

My aunts and uncles have learning disabilities, and have dealt with a lot of abuse in the past. I take the situation lightly in front of them, and then go back to 'politely' educate people later. I use the word 'politely' rather loosely!

[Mamyalynne]

Those who are saying it doesn't count as it was a set up , miss the point - the customers who reacted or didn't were not aware of that fact.


Re-enactments take place in all kinds of research and are a very useful tool for debate and discussion.

[andy-hughes]

jomifl - "The situation was hypothetical and contrived, pointless disussing it."

I believe you are missing the point.

It was a 'set-up' but that does not mean it does not reflect real life and real situations, which made it valid.

If the packer was dressed as Mickey Mouse and the customer was dressed as Donald Duck then fine - it's contrived. But none of the customers knew that - so as far as they were concerned, this is predjudice and abuse up close and personal - so it is a valid exercise, and a valid discussion.

[gness]

Different situation, Andy...but we little old ladies can be feisty too....☺

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7oo2qIpTyY

[andy-hughes]

Mamyalynne - "Those who are saying it doesn't count as it was a set up , miss the point - the customers who reacted or didn't were not aware of that fact.


Re-enactments take place in all kinds of research and are a very useful tool for debate and discussion."

We cross-posted, but obviously see this from the same viewpoint.

[237SJ]

I agree with alwaysconfused. It would be more humiliating for the worker to be the subject of a discussion between two customers in front of him which might be why the other shoppers didn`t get involved.

[jomifl]

The way I see this situation is that the people in the video are being psychologically abused by the film maker without their consent.