Where Is The Measles Thread?

[Sqad]

I can't find it.

[dannyk13]

Sqad, you could always start your own thread on the subject as so many seem interested in it.

[Sqad]

LOl....danny...I am scared to post, let alone start a thread.
No.....I will just follow and post when appropriate.

[woofgang]

if you google the user name (often an interesting exercise) you will find that the name is used to post at various places around the net linking to items about ants and measles.

[Sqad]

woofgang........so are you hinting that he might not have been a spammer as suggested by the Ed.
Ants and Measles seems odd subjects for a spammer.

[woofgang]

I am no expert but yes, I think it can be a sign of a spammer or troll. On many forums, new members are restricted as to what they can post or access. A way round this is to post something unspammy and leave it there until any restrictions are lifted and then go to work!

[Sqad]

You may be right, but this pulling the whole thread seems to me like "throwing the baby out with the bath water."

[woofgang]

as to that, I have no idea.

[pixie374]

I think you're right, Sqad. But from Ed's explanation, it looks like banning the OPer removes the thread too.

[fiction-factory]

If the poster of a question is subsequently banned their questions will disappear. That's normally fine but in cases where the question itself had no spam links and the thread contains quite a bit of useful information for others, then so long as inappropriate/spam answers are removed it may be better to just Suspend (permanently) the OP so the thread remains.

[fiction-factory]

Sorry pixie- yours wasn't there when i started

[pixie374]

No problem xx I agree- I just thought it may be automatic.

[Peter Pedant]

thank you for the translation jno

yes the ly link was to a look-back article which looked at a few thousand cases in Ceylon and drew conclusions

i have no idea why a retired doctor should find this observation hard to understand in any way

to the point
measles was devastating and lethal in victorian times I thought because of the chronic malnutrition

Measles is said to be lethal in Africa now for the same reason ( sqad - the reason should be - malnutrition)
BUT -
1) as it spreads thro a family ( in africa that is!) the later cases tend to die - and this could be an effect of "passage thro the natural host makes a virus more pathogenic" - . My Porton Down training coming out there I am afraid. Recollect that plague becomes pneumonic and spreads without a flea in later stages of an epidemic
2) or it could be that in a family - there are shared HLA antigens - and this has an bearing on the effect measles virus has in later infections - not seen outside a family environment

bit technical for AB - but perhaps jno cd translate the difficult bits

and yes Wakefield - now not in medical practice - said MMR was dangerous when it was not and he should have known, and so vaccination levels dipped sharply
single measles vaccine is not as efficient and no vaccine is worse

so there was a measles epidemic the first in forty or fifty years
and at least one death in Manchester

over to you jno for a my first ladybird book of measles translation

[jno]

I have no problems with users being removed for any reason that pleases the Ed, that's what editors are for. Just a shame if useful threads go too. Perhaps the Ed could find some way of keeping these even when the OP was been deactivated. A special section for Interesting Threads Accidentally Posted By Trolls maybe.

[jno]

Looks crystal clear to me, PP (as do most of your posts)

[ummmm]

There are people who are banned whose posts still remain.

[Peter Pedant]

FredPuli a criminal QC later to die from ca bile duct
gave a brill analysis on Galbraith applications

applications half way thro a criminal trial when the defence says - we are wasting our time judge - can you tell them to acquit ?

which later got binned

a co-applicant was John Bindon whom you will recollect was Princess Margarets paramour ( one out of list of many)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bindon
his other claim to fame was a bit of him could reach the bottom of a pint glass - no not his tongue

[Sqad]

PP

"I have no idea why a retired doctor should find this observation hard to understand in any way "
If the above remark was aimed at me, I cannot reply as I do not know to what your are refereeing. Would you care to enlighten me?

Don't blame Wakefield.......his paper was read by "experts" BEFORE being accepted for print in the prestigious BMJ or Lancert, i cannot remember which. Clearly blame was not that of Dr Wakefield's alone.

[jno]

Lancet, I think, Sqad. Huge mistake. I think he also got a lot of support from the Sunday Times, editor Andrew Neill.