Pips

[jennyjoan]

We have had a few suicides this week and one of the guy's family who died asked for money in lieu of flowers as often happens.

When we donate to all the other charities ie cancer etc we know that the money can go to research to help these illnesses but can anybody tell me how money can help suicide victims. Thanks

[ummmm]

Mental health services.

[ummmm]

Something like the Samaritans.

[Sqad]

Who or what is Pips?

[jennyjoan]

yes a good one but sometimes a person who is too far gone can't even manage that final call

[jennyjoan]

Sqad - suicide charity

[ummmm]

But if there were more mental health services available they might not have got to that point.

[Sqad]

Thanks JJ......I rarely give to any charity......mrs sqad is a sucker for animal charities.

[jennyjoan]

Ach Sqad - you have to spread a little love and money around. Good for Mrs Sqad.

[Rockrose]

If you looked at their website jennyjoan it tells you how it can help.
https://pipscharity.com/

[jennyjoan]

I'll look at that link later Rockrose. My next door neighbour over the last 10 years have had 5 suicides in their family. Not their immediate but nieces and nephews per se.

Actually suicide is horrendous here.

[jennyjoan]

and my neighbour did go to some of the Pips meetings but had to stop as they upset her too much

[ummmm]

Loads of suicides down south as well.

[Rockrose]

If one family has so many one has to look at the cause.

[jennyjoan]

Last year on the other side of Belfast - a lady lost her 3 sons and a nephew to suicide within a few years - so so sad.

[ducksie]

Our neighbour's son went missing last week, was found in the attic, buried yesterday, I don't know how someone like him could have been helped by mental health services if he didn't look for the help, every day on social media there is reminders of 'it's ok not to be ok' talk to someone etc., I think if you're gonna do it no one is going to talk you out of it. Some do take notice I know but suicide is happening so often in our town I can't help but feel like JJ on how will it help them not wanting help - I've had a suicide in my family and nothing would have stopped that as it was totally out of character of family member

[jennyjoan]

sorry to hear that ducksie - I too believe that no matter what the suicide will go on.

Those girls and guys that I know are really from very happy parents etc.

[Rockrose]

ducksie, I lost a foster brother too he hung himself - it was always on the cards - I didn't mourn him he was finally free of his demons and those that tortured him his entire young life.

[ducksie]

Thanks JennyJ, most are from happy families, because it's so final, there's no answer to why they did it :(

I looked at the PIPS link provided by Rockrose, it's a pity it's not open more at weekends, that's when most people are at their most vulnerable ( I feel anyway )

[ducksie]

I'm so sorry Rockrose, people are cruel

[nailit]

//but sometimes a person who is too far gone can't even manage that final call//
And even when they do, mental health services often dont take them seriously. As you all know, I spent a couple of weeks in the nut hut last year. When I first phoned them and told them that I was seriously suicidal (after very nearly jumping of a bridge) I was given the advice to calm myself down and make a cup of tea. It was only when I turned up at the mental health clinic and told them that If I walked out of that place I fully intended to jump under the first bus or lorry that I saw, (and that Id left a note for the coroner detailing my trying...and not recieving...help) that I managed to get some help.
Ive lost friends through suicide because mental health services are for the most part rubbish when dealing with depressed and suicidal people.