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I Honestly Dont Get It...
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More and more people are getting vaxed against covid and yet cases are rising??
Shouldnt it be the other way around?
Shouldnt it be the other way around?
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As others have said, the vaccine greatly reduces the risk of death if you catch covid. It doesn't prevent stop anyone from catching it though.
Cases may be high but deaths are not as high as they were with the same number of cases, this time last year. The figures are significantly less.
How do you know you're 'on the right side', Fraser?
Cases may be high but deaths are not as high as they were with the same number of cases, this time last year. The figures are significantly less.
How do you know you're 'on the right side', Fraser?
As I understand it. Being vaccinated does not stop you from catching Covid. It does minimise the likelihood of your being severely affected by it and so minimises the death rates. It does not stop you from passing-on Covid, but again minimises the risks.
In other words, cases are rising as people are mixing etc., but the important thing is that they are not being hospitalised or dying. This is probably because people at risk have been vaccinated and younger people are much, much more likely to have a 'light' illness.
We also test far too much. If we tested for the common cold then the figures would be frightening I expect!
In other words, cases are rising as people are mixing etc., but the important thing is that they are not being hospitalised or dying. This is probably because people at risk have been vaccinated and younger people are much, much more likely to have a 'light' illness.
We also test far too much. If we tested for the common cold then the figures would be frightening I expect!
I’m sorry for your loss nailit, but I don’t get what is so difficult to get. Infections are rising because viruses spread - but the vast majority of those people suffer minimal effect and survive. I read that the hospital beds are occupied in the main by the unvaccinated. The vaccine works. Of that there is no doubt. I really hope there won’t be many more people lying in hospital regretting their decision to reject the opportunity to do their best to protect themselves. Their illness is self inflicted - and that’s just crazy.
//We also test far too much.//
Thats the same thing NJ says so as with most things he says on covid its nonsense. We dont test enough. the disease as Peter Pedant said from his Defoe quotes is spread most by people who have it and either dont realise or dont test or dont reveal there result and carry on as normal. If we tested more perhaps test everyone weekly and enforce isolation we'd cut the spread alot
Thats the same thing NJ says so as with most things he says on covid its nonsense. We dont test enough. the disease as Peter Pedant said from his Defoe quotes is spread most by people who have it and either dont realise or dont test or dont reveal there result and carry on as normal. If we tested more perhaps test everyone weekly and enforce isolation we'd cut the spread alot
Thanks milo but justa word of caution for your freind, theres some evidence now that after having covid its best to wait sevral months, ma be 6 months before having the jab as the natural immunity from antibodies will protect you so the vaccine may actually confuse the immune system and the vaccinne is best saved until the antibodies start to wear off
//Thats the same thing NJ says so as with most things he says on covid its nonsense. We dont test enough.//
Then rather tell everybody on here, you'd be better off telling most of the other health authorities across Europe, bob. The UK carries out by far and away the highest number of tests per head of population in Europe - up to ten times as many tests than some countries:
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I know you like following what scientists tells us, so here's a quote from Professor Sir Andrew Pollard. He helped create the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine so probably knows a thing or two. He said that increased transmission isn’t the only reason why case numbers have been averaging more than 40,000 a day for over a week – with more than 52,000 cases recorded last Thursday. He said it was true the UK had high case rates but this is “very much related to the amount of testing”, especially in schools. It blindingly obvious that if you test more people you will find more infections. The disease is now endemic in the UK (and across the world) and you can test people for the next five years and beyond and still find high levels of infection.
//If we tested more perhaps test everyone weekly and enforce isolation we'd cut the spread a lot//
Are you for real, bob? The UK is currently carrying out about 6m tests a week and (very roughly) about one in twenty are proving positive. This means around 300,000 people are testing positive (the actual figure last week was 278,000) and have to isolate. You are suggesting increasing that tenfold, meaning around 3m people will be isolating weekly. To what end? The vast majority of these people will not be ill, most of them will have no symptoms at all. You need to move away from this idea that the spread of this disease can be prevented. It cannot. You also need to consider that considerable damage is being done to the (non-Covid) sick and especially to children. A report last week explained that mental illness in children had increased dramatically over the last 18 months. This cannot go on.
Anyway, I'm pleased to learn that the UK government has plans to follow my "nonsense":
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Operation "Rampdown" should see the end to the ludicrously expensive "Test and Trace" system, an axe on free Covid tests and the removal of the requirement for those testing positive to self-isolate.
Never mind. Peter Pedant will continue to suggest I believe Covid does not exist; he will continue to say I believe it is no worse than 'flu; he will continue to say “…if you are NJ just say crap crap crap it is all crap” (none of which, of course, I have ever said or even suggested, but never mind).
Then rather tell everybody on here, you'd be better off telling most of the other health authorities across Europe, bob. The UK carries out by far and away the highest number of tests per head of population in Europe - up to ten times as many tests than some countries:
https:/
I know you like following what scientists tells us, so here's a quote from Professor Sir Andrew Pollard. He helped create the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine so probably knows a thing or two. He said that increased transmission isn’t the only reason why case numbers have been averaging more than 40,000 a day for over a week – with more than 52,000 cases recorded last Thursday. He said it was true the UK had high case rates but this is “very much related to the amount of testing”, especially in schools. It blindingly obvious that if you test more people you will find more infections. The disease is now endemic in the UK (and across the world) and you can test people for the next five years and beyond and still find high levels of infection.
//If we tested more perhaps test everyone weekly and enforce isolation we'd cut the spread a lot//
Are you for real, bob? The UK is currently carrying out about 6m tests a week and (very roughly) about one in twenty are proving positive. This means around 300,000 people are testing positive (the actual figure last week was 278,000) and have to isolate. You are suggesting increasing that tenfold, meaning around 3m people will be isolating weekly. To what end? The vast majority of these people will not be ill, most of them will have no symptoms at all. You need to move away from this idea that the spread of this disease can be prevented. It cannot. You also need to consider that considerable damage is being done to the (non-Covid) sick and especially to children. A report last week explained that mental illness in children had increased dramatically over the last 18 months. This cannot go on.
Anyway, I'm pleased to learn that the UK government has plans to follow my "nonsense":
https:/
Operation "Rampdown" should see the end to the ludicrously expensive "Test and Trace" system, an axe on free Covid tests and the removal of the requirement for those testing positive to self-isolate.
Never mind. Peter Pedant will continue to suggest I believe Covid does not exist; he will continue to say I believe it is no worse than 'flu; he will continue to say “…if you are NJ just say crap crap crap it is all crap” (none of which, of course, I have ever said or even suggested, but never mind).
