Nailit's Probably Not Around

[pastafreak]

But here's some reading relating to AstraZeneca and blood clots. Out of 50 MILLION doses in the UK, there have been 73 deaths.
Scientists are finding out why...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59418123

[pat2604]

Phew,glad I'm on blood thinners. They obviously saved me from being no.40!! ;O)

[pat2604]

Having said that the blood thinners have a greater chance of killing me from a bleed on the brain!

[Khandro]

//But you just said they were not even recorded so anecdotal evidence does not even exist by that reckoning ?//

Do you not know what anecdotal means?

[Stickybottle]

Spicerack
I could post a few Covid 'conspiracy theories' that turned out to be true, if you like.

Crack on !
Let us have a laugh
I mean a look at them then

Please try to use independent reliable and renowned sources
Not Facebook
Not Les down the pub nor Tracy in aisle 4 in Asda who overheard something in the chippy
Also give us your theories yes ?
Are we being microchipped ?
Having our dna altered ?
Or being prepped for the mother ship ?
Do tell !

[Stickybottle]

Avatar Image Khandro
//But you just said they were not even recorded so anecdotal evidence does not even exist by that reckoning ?//

Do you not know what anecdotal means?
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So if it was not recorded by any form of media you mean you heard the worldwide date by word of mouth ??
Stop dodging the question and at least have a shot at it

[Stickybottle]

*data not date

[Stickybottle]

Where did Spicerack and Khandro go ?
I am getting thirsty for knowledge
Looking forward to these facts and figures and true conspiracy theories !

[10ClarionSt]

Sticky, you don't need facts and figures. The happy, jolly Mr Whitty is telling us every day that infections are rising fast, despite all the measures that are in place. He didn't say the last bit. That's me.

[Khandro]

SB: Speaking to a friend who has recently been in hospital (not covid related) she told me that while she was in there she talked to several fellow patients who said they have problems related to their vaccinations.

On my six-monthly visit to my urologist, (who is not my main GP) last week, he confided in me that "quite a few" of his patients had experienced side-effects after their covid jabs. He didn't say how many or what their issues were.

THAT is anecdotal evidence.

[bobbinwales]

//Whitty is telling us every day that infections are rising fast, despite all the measures that are in place. He didn't say the last bit. That's me.//

Your probably someone who thinks despite all those umbrellas we buy the rain keeps falling. As it occurred to you that the measures was put in place because infections are rising and would rise faster without them measures

[andy-hughes]

Khandro - // SB: Speaking to a friend who has recently been in hospital (not covid related) she told me that while she was in there she talked to several fellow patients who said they have problems related to their vaccinations.

On my six-monthly visit to my urologist, (who is not my main GP) last week, he confided in me that "quite a few" of his patients had experienced side-effects after their covid jabs. He didn't say how many or what their issues were. //

Side effects are advised at the time the injection is given, to be expected and put up with for the day or two they take to stop.

Given the side effects of the jabs and booster, and Covid - and I've had all three - I know which I'd rather have thank you!

[naomi24]

AH, the vaccinations affect people in different ways. Some have no effects at all. Others aren’t so lucky. I was quite poorly with all three. My husband - zilch. You can’t generalise.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // AH, the vaccinations affect people in different ways. Some have no effects at all. Others aren’t so lucky. I was quite poorly with all three. My husband - zilch. You can’t generalise. //

That does not negate the point I made.

The side effects are advised to people as they have their injection, they do not say, and incidentaly, neither did I, that everyone will have the same side effects to the same degree.

I had one day in bed, then felt fine, my wife was poleaxed for four days, my mother in law, who is approaching ninety, had no effects at all.

Any and all medication can cause side effects - there is always an exhaustive list of potential reactions to accopany any prescribed medication - but the effects are obviously individual, and the fact that a proportion of people may have them in no way makes a case for people to avoid having their jabs and boosters.

[pastafreak]

My daughter and I both had AZ. She felt quit ill for several days, I had mild aches and low fever. These are the side effects experienced by many when having a flu jab. But people don't get hysterical over that, do they? Individual immune response/strength of immune system plays a part in it too.

[Atheist]

I was under the impression that feeling bad for a day or two is a sign that the vaccine is working, not that this is some unexpected warning sign.

[pastafreak]

I thought the same.

[Khandro]

Andy Hughes: I had a stroke and was hospitalised. Thank God I seem to have come away without any serious issues, but I've had headaches for 4 months & may have to be on statins for the rest of my days.

[Atheist]

Khandro, anecdotal 'evidence' means, I think, instances of occurrences which are not necessarily statistically significant, because their frequency is not high. People are sometimes struck by lightning after taking the Lord's name in vain, but that doesn't mean that we should all live as though lightning strikes are caused by deisrespect for a deity. A single personal experience can put the wind up people who experience it, but that doesn't mean that everyone who hasn't come across it needs to be afraid. It is natural that people do become fearful, but those whose job is to formulate medical policy will take a more mathematical approach; and so they must. My anecdotal 'evidence' is that nobody I know has had a bad vaccine response, but I'm sure you wouldn't accept that as proof of anything.

[naomi24]

AH, you continue to argue even when you agree. Most odd.

[jourdain2]

10 Clarion St. at 10.10 - I agree with you.