re cant belive it

[wonder years]

its the grandfathers partner thats been murdered and the grandad is in hospital the police say the two incidents are not connected

[-Zorro-]

It looked like a ruff pub....it may be drug related

[wonder years]

i dont know weather its the granda who owned the pub i thought they were on holiday abroad and this was the other granda hey i could be wrong again any ways its a sad sad story, and your right its usally drugs

[PinkFizz]

The more I hear this story the more I cant believe it!! What on earth happened???

[wonder years]

the parents of the baby were looking after the pub for the babys grandparents who had two rottwilers who roamed on the roof the snatched this poor baby 5 mounths from its cot and mauled it to death, then in a seprate incindent, the babys grandfather is in hospital and his partner murdered, but dont know if its the gandfather who the dogs belonged to in any case what a tradgic case of events

[4getmenot]

No it wasnt they were on holiday, this is the babies mother's father (I think) The owners of the dogs were the father parents

[unruliejulie]

this pub is about 10 mins away from me and yes Zorro, it is a very rough pub in a rough area.

It is beyond belief that this could happen and it is purely coincidental. Very very sad.

[PinkFizz]

Have just read this properly on the news,and it was the baby's dad's dad(the baby's grandfather) who was stabbed and is fighting for his life.The dad's girlfriend is dead from stab wounds.She apparently was known for being a druggie,whether that is true I don't know.The baby's mum and baby were staying at the pub wuth her new boyfriend.The boyfriends parents ran the pub and aren't related to the baby is any way - in fact they are on holiday.
One report says the two incidents are totally unrelated - another says that the grandfathers girlfriend kicked off on her estate when she heard about the baby being mauled to death and that led to a big fight which ended in her death.

[4getmenot]

I think you really need family tree diagram, what a muddle I got in reading that pink but think I've got it :-)